In this episode, I talk to Matt Simpkins, of the band Rev Simpkins and The Phantom Notes, about how music elevates our consciousness, and the difference (if there is one) between a religious encounter with God and a non-religious experience of spirituality. Matt and the band have a new album out, called Big Sea, which you should check out!

This episode also features snippets of an unreleased demo Matt recorded with the band. The song is called Jonah, and another version of it eventually appeared on the album Lions.

Check out Rev Simpkins and the Phantom Notes: https://revsimpkins.com/

Guardian article mentioned in intro: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/sep/26/dreading-a-dark-winter-lockdown-think-like-a-norwegian