Half-time Chat with Siv Ngesi is made just for you by BrightRock. In each episode Siv talks to prominent rugby personalities about their rugby journeys and how they deal with change in their lives.

Corne Krige was Springbok captain during one of the most tumultuous periods in South African rugby post-1994. Despite those challenges, the Zambian-born Krige ended his rugby career as a legend in green and gold. Having retired from rugby relatively early at the age 30, Krige has navigated the past 15 years of his life with the same tenacity in which he played the game.

In his sit-down chat with Siv, Corne reflects on the rugby lessons he applies in life and business, not drawing his identity from temporary positions and what true change means for him.

Quotes & talking points from Corne's interview with Siv Ngesi:

• "Herschelle Gibbs was an absolute freak on the rugby field"
• "At a time when I needed guidance sport really helped me"
• "don't attach who you are to rugby, when rugby disappears what's going to happen?"
• "Business isn't easy, but if you have a good partner it helps"
• "Rugby should be a game played by people of all shapes and sizes"
• "In leadership you must be big enough to say sorry ... and make up for your mistakes"
• "If you don't humble yourself you'll be humbled by the game or by somebody else"
• Life lessons from the All Blacks
• "Team environment is always bigger than individual talent"
• "I still get excited about World Cups"
• "One's ability to change determines how mature you are" BrightRock