Hanzi Freinacht is a Swiss philospher and author of the book 'The Listening Society'. He is also a proponent or originator of the Swiss school of metamodernism, that is a philosophy that, like integral theory, performatism or digimodernism, goes beyond postmodernity and connects an explicit poltical theory with a stages model of individual and adult development This is his secind visit here at this pocast, and we had a great conversation about the individual and cognitive side of metamodernism.