Diana and Marni discuss the difficulty of being creative in the face of 2020 and all it's hot mess glory.

This episode was written and recorded by Marni Bates and Diana Rosengard.
This episode edited by Diana Rosengard.
Our theme song is "Jazz Cafe" by Jam Morgan, used under Creative Commons license, from www.taketones.com.
"I Make Words (And So Can You!)" is a Snoozletime Media production, a division of Horseshoes & Hand Grenades Publishing, LLC.