A spirited debate breaks out between the guys over the more valuable QB for a team... Jimmy G or Kirkers, and how much have the top 5 or 6 QBs in the NFL ruined expectations for the rest of the League over their teams' QB. Ryan Abraham of uscfootball.com joins the Ticker with thoughts on USC's offensive turnaround this season and what sort of game he expects in Corvallis this weekend.