Marisa interviewed Professor Lyndall Ryan BA DipEd (Sydney), PhD (Macquarie) AM FAHA, a leadinghistorian of the Australian colonial frontier. The Frontier wars and some massacres of Victoria were discussed, as well as the myall creek massacre Marisa also interviewed Stephen Kilkeary director of inividual and group advocacy in Nsw, (people with disability Australia). Segregated living situations for people with disability were discussed, in the context of violence and neglect, and the royal Commission hearings.