August Burns Red has dropped their 8th (!!) record this month, GUARDIANS. It's a banger. Front man Jake Luhrs and I talk about why he took a step back from lyric writing on this one, why numbers don't matter, and how he's surviving the lockdown. 

I also drop a tiny excerpt from my upcoming book (shameless self-promotion). 

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