You wake up at 4am and you’re excited. “Mo Bamba” is playing because it’s your alarm clock, in fact it’s been your alarm clock for 4 months and it still hasn’t been ruined for you. Then you grab the 230 lb. tire from your backyard, prop it up on its side, and roll it for 2-4 hours around town, stopping and talking to people about life, business, struggle, anything they want to, really. After that you work on your catering business you founded at age 23, along with your nonprofit organization, the Keep Rolling Campaign.

This is how each day starts for 27 year old De’Andre Wilson.

I met De’Andre on Twitter. He lives in Evansville, Indiana, a town Donald Trump has visited twice. Once I saw the video of him describing his story, I knew I had to get him on the podcast. But, he beat me to it—De’Andres asked to be on the show, as part of his podcast tour for the documentary being made about him…sorry, forgot to mention the documentary.

Stay tuned for the most exciting episode of hindsight 20/something, yet. Learn why the hell De’Andre pushes that giant tire, how he wants to leave a legacy, and the way in which he continues to believe in baby steps.

PS the audio quality could be better, as De’Andre was calling from his home, in Indiana. But, believe me, the content is so, so worth it.

Let’s go.