In this conversation Carla Bottiglieri, Thomas Grail and Patricia Gracia, navigate the themes of learning and memory at the cellular and systemic levels, belonging and being terrestrial, distancing from the predation of ecosystems, nurturing presence in deep connection and recognition of all living kingdoms, space holding information, embodiment and embeddedness, killing the living archives/ memories of indigenous communities; memory of human, animal, plant ancestors, precious whispers of life running through generations in all living forms, ability for deep recognition of ‘otherness’ through ancient memory, learning and memory both in the Nervous System and the Immune functions, learning in contemplation, holding the unknown, group improvisation as a practice to unload wisdom from a pregnant space, nothing empty, not a ‘void’, dismantling ownership and colonization.