Host: Scott Chasen (Follow on Twitter: @ChasenScott) Guest: Blake McFarland (Follow on Twitter: @TheBlakeMC) Follow or Subscribe to the Phog.net Podcast on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! Music credit: Fresh Start by Joakim Karud, soundcloud.com/joakimkarud Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices