Today we talk with Matt Pocock, who comes from Oxfordshire, England. As a big fan of TypeScript and maintainer of the Xstate library, we discuss the benefits and downsides of TypeScript. As the discussion gets a bit heated, we debate the true value of TypeScript, and where it holds value to the programming community.

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