A brand new segment - After hours- Conversations with the producer. Where Adanna Moriarty continues the discussion with our guests for more insight into the world of publishing.  

In this episode, she continues on with publisher Jose Ramirez, talking all things self-publishing, and even gets into the strange world of programming, something she always wished she knew more about.

The original aired as episode four on April 11th, 2021. We jump right here so listen to the first part beforehand so you don't get lost in the conversation.