Dr Donna Lanclos is a self-described anthropologist in the machine; her field sites include education and the digital landscapes it inhabits. Her role in these machines of education and digital is to understand how they work, how people interact within the cogs and wheels of processes and ultimately to ensure that the machine is serving humanity rather than the machine itself.

In this talk with Terry Greene and Stephen Hurley, Donna discusses a right relationship between EdTech and education, the narrative of personalized learning and the power of "deep hanging out."