Dustin Yoder, CEO, and co-founder of Sureify, and Gilad Shai talk about failures. Failures are more interesting than successes because they carry lessons.
Dustin also talks about building a side hustle to fund the main hustle, the pre-ITC Life and Annuity summit, beekeeping, and a 100 lb. pet tortoise. 

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The Startup Owner's Manual: The Step-By-Step Guide for Building a Great Company by Steve Blank and Bob Dorf