Ever felt so off-track you wanted to puke? Brian Johnson has. Dreaming up his own dream job as the CEO-Founder of Optimize and Heroic Public Benefit Corporation took a lot of gut checks — and more than a few stomach-turning moments of reckoning. So here, Pilar chats with Brian what it means to be a “living experimenter,” about the inner voices that help each of us find our own way, and about the exciting path Brian sees ahead as he embarks on the most ambitious project of his career — training heroes for a world that needs them more than ever.
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