This week Jeff, Mona and Allen have a conversation with Benjamin L. Corey. Benjamin is a leading voice among post-evangelical and progressive Christians, the author of both the blog Formerly Fundie and the book Undiluted: Rediscovering the Radical Message of Jesus, as well as a co-host for his own podcast That God Show with Matthew Paul Turner. In this episode Ben shares with us his personal journey, which includes the challenges of things like overnight notoriety and the loss of community. He also shares about his doctoral work in trauma after-care, the reception of his recent series on Hell and the Atonement, and thinks out loud about his commitment to pacifism. Finally, Ben joins the team for a good ol’ fashioned round of Jesus or Jay-Z?