In which we noodle around a bit in a liminal space of podcasting or not podcasting or not not podcasting. In regards of the initial choice of keyboard sounds and music; this was done while we were waiting around but if anyone is keeping score it was 10 (All or Nothing At All) for the music and 7 in the organ sound group on my keyboard.

Skip to: 15 minutes if you do not fancy our musical meanderings and want to get straight into the chat.

Arguments within the anti-covid-regime movement Link to Article Mentioned; Germ Theory; Unlearning thought and education; legal tender, companies depositing cash being charged by banks; Legal Tender - Hayek ; Peter Thiel and Eric Weinstein; how we deal with the opinion makers who we still respect in different spheres to the cv19-regime conversation; privatisation of the NHS; suspicion growing in Sweden; Dawn of Everything and Pinker being wrong, how this effects me and how wrong I was; colonial mum and dad and the kids; the commonwealth suffering from Stockholm Syndrome ; The Last American Vagabond ; scripture, the different language and how we relate to each other and our ideas; Robert Maxwell being bad for science .

I wanted to add a small thing here to do with the Pinker conversation: when talking about this idea outside of the show it was pointed out that flitting between one person's opinion and another set of opinions requires further consideration. What is it that was correct in the first instance and what is the sufficient level of argumentation from another side in order to sway towards a different opinion? In this regard I feel like Graeber and Wengrow are arguing from a position that matches more of my world-view and first principles. They argue for natural, long-lasting and robust understandings that are passed down through lineage and thought leaders and that they can and often do come from all over the world and all the different societies and tribes. This chimes much more with my understanding than Western thought and the Enlightenment being some singular thing that supersedes all other thought. I suppose this is science.