Vicki and Geraldine talk to digital inequalities expert Kira Allman, recently appointed Senior Digital Policy Officer at Manchester City Council, about why we so often get ‘the digital divide’ wrong, why thinking of digital infrastructure as being like water is helpful, and the prospects for AI that works for human beings.

Talking points:

• What’s the point of local digital policies when the internet is global?
• Why the digital divide is a rubbish concept.
• How exclusion is baked into technology.