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Christian TAG Solves It AllFinishing up the question, we see that a proper examination would have led Greg Bahnsen to present the transcendental argument that he was known for and how Christian TAG solves it all.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Question 7 – How Does The Christian Not Just Beg The Question As Well?
02:57 – Question 8 – Could This All Be An Illusion?
04:27 – Bahnsen’s Rebuttal With The Transcendental Rebuttal
13:33 – Conclusion


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What The Atheist Should Have AskedHere’s what Gordon Stein, the atheist, should have asked Greg Bahnsen in their debate instead of being caught off guard over what happened. Here, the editor steps into the role to pull out more context in the nature of the Christian worldview and why it provides the necessary basis for all knowledge.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:34 – Question 1 – Why Do We Need To Know The Laws Of Logic Before Coming To Our Theory?
03:52 – Question 2 – Why Can’t We Know Logic Is True Because It Works?
05:35 – Question 3 – Why Can’t Laws Of Logic Just Be Necessarily True?
08:17 – Question 4 – How Does The Christian Worldview Count As Proof?
09:57 – Question 5 – How Does That Show The Whole Bible Is True?
11:34 – Question 6 – How Do You Prove The Worldview Of The Christian Worldview?
13:55 – Conclusion


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Christianity Provides The Only Justification For KnowledgeTony’s going to be out for a bit, so the next four episodes will be on the shorter end, but that’s ok.

Here, the editor of the book, Joshua Pillows, structures the debate on what might have been the case if Stein had been prepared to deal with Bahnsen’s actual argument. So this is how it should have happened, and we start with Bahnsen’s opening statement.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
04:03 – The Embarrassing Dr. Stein
05:34 – Bahnsen’s Opening Statement Redux
07:13 – A Battle Of Worldviews
09:22 – The Issue With The Naturalistic Atheist Worldview
11:47 – Conclusion


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Evil, Miracles, & Atheist FaithTony’s going to be out for a bit, so the next four episodes will be on the shorter end, but that’s ok.

Here, the editor of the book, Joshua Pillows, structures the debate on what might have been the case if Stein had been prepared to deal with Bahnsen’s actual argument. So this is how it should have happened, and we start with Bahnsen’s opening statement.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
04:03 – The Embarrassing Dr. Stein
05:34 – Bahnsen’s Opening Statement Redux
07:13 – A Battle Of Worldviews
09:22 – The Issue With The Naturalistic Atheist Worldview
11:47 – Conclusion


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Evil, Miracles, & Atheist FaithWe finish off with the debate with the final four questions including evil, agnosticism, the nature of logic, belief, and show that an atheist faith is present and the atheist in this debate stumbles over himself and accidentally admits it – twice.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:27 – Question 3 – Why Is There Evil? Rebellion
05:27 – Dr. Stein Rebuttal – God Needs To Force Us Not To Rebel To Be Good & Real
07:34 – Question 4 – Why Not Agnosticism?
08:54 – Ut Oh! Stein Contradicts Stein!
11:18 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Rebuttal – Stein Admits Atheists Have Blind Faith
16:31 – Question 5 – Why Is Do Laws Of Logic Need To Be Grounded In God? Because They Can’t Ground Themselves
23:19 – Dr. Stein’s Rebuttal – None, But Admits He Has Faith
24:51 – Question 6 – What Evidence Would An Atheist Need To Believe In God? Magic!
27:31 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Rebuttal – People Haven’t Believed When Shown Miracles
34:10 – Conclusion


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The Christian God & The Guy From Germany With A Funny MustacheAs we come down to the book’s debate proper section we are left with six questions from the audience. Here we cover two which involve asking why is the Christian God the answer out of all the other gods out there. Then we get to ask the question that takes all philosophers about 6 minutes to get to – how do we deal with ideas when it comes to that guy from Germany with a funny mustache. A really interesting response from both sides here.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:42 – Question 1 – Why The Christian God Out Of All The Other gods?
04:16 – An Important Question But Not Part Of The Debate Specifically
07:20 – A Consistent Worldview Different Than Something Like Hinduism
13:02 – Dr. Stein’s Response – Buddhism Is The Only Rational Religion
14:09 – Question 2 – Why That German With A Mustache Wrong?
15:01 – Western Tradition Says So!
21:17 – Dr. Bahnsen’s Response – Begging The Question
24:45 – Further Commentary
27:06 – Conclusion


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Christians Have The High GroundWe all know what happens to those who have the high ground. Dr. Bahnsen ends his closing remarks with the key points being that atheist Gordon Stein doesn’t have a leg to stand on. In fact, he’s stealing the Christian’s leg to be able to claim all his worldview points on. So ends the Great Debate – but wait, there’s more!

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:35 – The Christian Does What The Atheist Didn’t Do
01:59 – Bahnsen Shows That Stein Couldn’t Back Up His Worldview To Critique
05:07 – The Untouched Transcendental Christian Argument
07:07 – The Unaccountable Naturalistic Worldview Of The Atheist
10:43 – Atheists Can Still Do Good By The Grace Of God
12:04 – The Problem With Convention
13:13 – Matter Matters Because It’s Matter
14:53 – Greatest Happiness Is What Matters With Morality For Atheists
17:21 – Bahnsen Is Not Impressed & The Audience & Atheists Shouldn’t Be Either
19:55 – Conclusion


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An Atheist Caught StealingDr. Stein finished the debate in his closing in what appears to be on his back heel. Bahnsen has levied that an atheist caught stealing from the Christian worldview allows for the use of science and morality that an atheist doesn’t have justification for. Stein uses his last words to try to say that an atheist universe allows for the most moral system and a place where men can do science easily.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:01 – An Atheist Talks About What’s Possible In An Atheist Universe
02:56 – Evil In An Atheist Universe By
11:48 – The Regularity Of Science In An Atheist Universe
22:15 – Stealing From Worldviews To Be Moral & Do Science
24:46 – Conclusion


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At Some Point We Have To Talk About TAGBahnsen uses the final part of his second rebuttal by letting Stein and the audience know that at some point we have to talk about TAG. The argument that Bahnsen is known for surprised and shocked the atheist who hand waves it away without dealing with any of the points. Maybe Stein can make his final case next week in his closing argument.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Bahnsen’s A Stickler For The Transcendental Argument
02:48 – A Reminder Of TAG
06:14 – The Atheist Tries To Turn The Tables On Christian Logic
11:24 – The Atheist Can’t Have Standards That Don’t Change
13:48 – The Christian Worldview Has More Consistent Consistents
18:23 – Conclusion


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Blind Faith Of Atheist MaterialismWe’re breaking up Bahnsen’s 2nd rebuttal into two sections as we did with Stein, as there are two major sections both have covered. In this first half, Bahnsen makes the case of the use of blind faith of atheist materialism, in which the worldview has no ability to justify the use of logic or of science, as the issues that have been covered in the debate – that of the problem of induction and the non-material nature of logic leads to a denial that they even exist.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:26 – Bahnsen Hasn’t Heard Any Justification For An Atheist To The Laws Of Logic
03:35 – The Issue Of Induction To Science Has Gone Unanswered
05:23 – The Future Is Only Probability For Atheists
07:35 – The Atheist’s Blind Faith In Logic & Science
10:55 – Conclusion


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How Does God Think?Stein didn’t know what the laws of logic were, knows philosophers don’t agree what they are – but now he’s going to point the finger back at Christians and say they don’t know either. He wants to know how does God think and how do Christians even know that. We Christians have a textbook and meetings every week.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – How Does One Know What God Thinks?
04:09 – If You Want A Why Did God Create – Here It Is; But So What?
05:58 – Stein Equivocates On His Terms
10:13 – Stein Doesn’t Think Bahnsen Could Give Laws Of Logic Meaning
12:54 – The Rock Question
15:09 – Conclusion


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Atheist Admits He’s Trapped!Stein has been stymied and this atheist admits he’s trapped when it comes to his inability to justify his use of the laws of logic within the confines of his atheistic materialism worldview. Next week, we’ll look at his attempt to heap that same outcome on Bahnsen and Christianity.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:37 – Atheist Can’t Understand Why Christian Wants To Talk About Logic
05:50 – Here’s The Deal
09:05 – The Issue With Falsification – For Atheists
15:30 – The Atheist Doesn’t Want An Explanation For Logic – They Just Want To Be Mad
17:00 – Atheist Admits He’s Trapped By Not Being Able To Explain Logic
18:02 – Conclusion


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Atheist Admits Atheism Can’t Justify ScienceA slightly shorter episode due to sickness by the editor but nonetheless still an important part of the Great Debate.

Here, Stein, the atheist admits atheism can’t justify science especially when it comes to induction. This issue that David Hume identified the problem with not having justification that the future will be like the past was identified all the way back during the Enlightenment and those enlightened ones who wanted to shake off God also shook off the justification of the use of science.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:19 – How To Deal With Hume’s Issue With Induction
03:40 – Atheists Want To Have Brute Facts Just Because
04:39 – Atheist Admits Atheism Can’t Justify Science
06:29 – Evolution Should Have Us Except Science To Change
09:24 – What Right Do We Have To Assume The Future Will Be Like The Past?
10:53 – Conclusion


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What’s The Atheist’s Metaphysical Basis For Anything?While this is supposed to be Stein’s 2nd cross-examination of Bahnsen, we see Bahnsen causes the atheist to stumble by trying to get him to provide the atheist’s metaphysical basis for anything – here specifically for math and the laws of logic. The Christian has a basis, one that the atheist doesn’t like, but that’s better than nothing or a lack of the ability to provide anything.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:09 – Is Math Theistic Or Atheistic
04:30 – Math Is Christian Because It Couldn’t Be Anything Else
06:12 – Delving Further Into This
08:11 – Is No Other Explanation Needed?
09:27 – The Christian’s External Answer That Is Required
11:29 – Unreasonable Demand On The Atheist?
12:31 – How Does An Atheist Justify Non-Material Laws?
14:10 – How Does A Christian Know Logic Reflects The Mind Of God?
19:06 – Atheist Doesn’t Buy, Or Understand
20:34 – Atheists Don’t Desire Metaphysical Proof Of Other Concepts They Agree With


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Atheist Logic By Experiment Or Agreement?Finishing up Bahnsen’s attempt to help out his atheist opponent provide justification for his use of logic, we look at logic being shown through experimentation or agreement. And like the good Christian Bahnsen is, he provides a good overview and then sinks the foundation of the atheist to claim any grounding for logic.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:47 – Atheist Logic From A Posteriori?
04:07 – Are Laws Of Logic Contingent Under Atheism?
06:29 – Why Do Laws Of Logic Work In Different Areas The Same
07:50 – Atheist Logic Just Linguistic Convention?
09:27 – If So Then They’re Culturally Relative
11:59 – Why Do Atheists Decry Moral Failure Of Christians
13:13 – What Type Does One Give To Back Up Atheistic Materialistic Logic
15:04 – Atheists Steal From Christians To Use Logic
15:45 – Conclusion


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The Failure Of Atheistic LogicWhere Stein has claimed that the laws of logic are only agreed upon but useful, Bahnsen is having a hard time accepting that – because it’s wrong. It’s up to Bahnsen to try and make the case for the atheist metaphysical use of the laws of logic. But it’s also up to Bahnsen to shoot those down too and show the failure of atheistic logic.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:57 – A Battle Of Worldviews
05:46 – The Atheist Doesn’t Have Reason To Use Reason
07:10 – The Christian’s Reason For Reason
08:08 – The Laws Of Logic Need A Mind
08:28 – Helpful Remind Of The Laws Of Logic
10:06 – Justifying Truth Of Logic Without Needing To Test It
11:42 – Not Proven Because They’re Used
13:40 – Logic Is More Conceptual Than Empirical
14:31 – Why Logic Can Always Be Used Consistently If They’re Only Agreed Upon
17:12 – If Logic Relies On People Only Why Don’t We Have Different Scholarships
18:49 – To The Library!
21:06 – Conclusion


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A Little Greek, A Little Sci-FiThe final half of the list of 2025 book reviews has more Greek, more sci-fi, and more indiepub goodness. Romance in space and space opera, talking pigs and talking frogs, first contact with aliens and first contact with demons, and good church history hymns and bad biblical archeology.

TIMELINE:00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:25 – Medea by Euripides
00:01:56 – The Trojan Women by Euripides
00:03:13 – Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White
00:06:40 – The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson
00:08:40 – Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
00:12:34 – Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis
00:14:16 – The Clouds by Aristophanes
00:16:23 – The Frogs by Aristophanes
00:17:48 – Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma
00:22:48 – Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter
00:26:48 – Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
00:29:39 – Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod
00:31:22 – Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago
00:33:39 – The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein
00:35:34 – 3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis
00:39:51 – The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
00:44:21 – Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin
00:47:48 – After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane
00:52:14 – The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe
00:55:50 – Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop
00:58:26 – Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley
01:02:59 – The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton
01:04:35 – The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli
01:07:32 – DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver
01:11:05 – Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
01:14:45 – Conclusion


Books mentioned in this episode:Medea by Euripides
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The Trojan Women by Euripides
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Charlotte’s Web by E.B. White
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The Breadth of Creation by C.S. Johnson
Kindle
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Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds
Kindle
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Prince Caspian by C.S. Lewis
Paperback

The Clouds by Aristophanes
Kindle
Paperback

The Frogs by Aristophanes
Paperback

Shoot the Devil – Ten Tales of Humans Defeating the Demonic edited by Eric Postma
Kindle
Paperback

Lifebinder by Blake Carpenter
Kindle
Paperback

Starship Troopers by Robert A. Heinlein
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Theogony – Works and Days by Hesiod
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Blind Devotion – A Tale of the Van Meter Visitor by Ty Drago
Kindle
Paperback

The Last Summer – A Tale of the Glawackus by Jacob Jones-Goldstein
Kindle
Paperback

3 Black Nights – An Urban Fantasy Horror Triple Feature! By T.J. Marquis
Kindle

The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress by Robert A. Heinlein
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Record of The Paladins – Book of Ivon and Ivoire by BP McCoppin
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

After Moses Prodigal by Michael F. Kane
Kindle
Paperback

The Shepherd Descends by J.A. Raithe
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Atlas of World War II – History’s Greatest Conflict Revealed Through Rare Wartime Maps and New Cartography Stephen G. Hyslop
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Stones Still Speak – How Biblical Archaeology Illuminates the Stories You Thought You Knew Amanda Hope Haley
Kindle
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Audible

The One Year Book of Hymns – 365 Devotions Based on Popular Hymns Robert K. Brown , Mark Norton
Paperback

The Door in the Wall by Marguerite de Angeli
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

DIEROCK 88 by S.A. Oliver
Kindle
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Audible

Before The Coffee Gets Cold by Toshikazu Kawaguchi
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A Little Greek, A Little Sci-Fi2025 kicked off my goal of reading the great books of Western Civilization. So in typical fashion I read a little Greek, a little sci-fi, and a smattering of everything else. Indiepub still factored into the list with some hits and misses, just like the tradpubs. As always, the goal we should all have isn’t quantity it’s quality. But quality doesn’t just mean classic great books, it means books you enjoy and changes you and allows you to experience escapism and learn more about God’s world as He is the ultimate storyteller.

TIMELINE:00:00:00 – Introduction
00:04:14 – The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis
00:07:06 – The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme
00:10:40 – Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess
00:12:06 – Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens
00:18:18 – The Peace War by Vernor Vinge
00:22:37 – Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce
00:26:05 – The Iliad by Homer
00:32:09 – Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie
00:34:31 – Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris
00:37:21 – Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr.
00:38:55 – Horus Rising by Dan Abnett
00:41:37 – The Odyssey by Homer
00:43:17 – D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire
00:44:46 – The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips
00:46:59 – Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
00:49:34 – Passing the Torch – An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos
00:53:21 – The Core by Leigh A. Bortins
00:56:06 – Agamemnon by Aeschylus
00:59:10 – The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus
01:00:39 – The Eumenides by Aeschylus
01:02:29 – The Air We Breathe – How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener
01:05:11 – Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray
01:07:00 – Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear
01:09:45 – The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
01:12:15 – Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater
01:13:37 – Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
01:16:36 – Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles
01:18:39 – Antigone by Sophocles
01:21:12 – To Be Continued Next Week


Books mentioned in this episode:The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe by C.S. Lewis
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The God Frequency by Douglas Hemme
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Audible

Amorphous – Breaking the Mold by Steven Burgess
Kindle
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Spectrum Multiview Christian Ethics Four Views edited by Steve Wilkens
Kindle
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CaveToTheCross Episodes – wwww.CaveToTheCross.com/ChristianEthics

The Peace War by Vernor Vinge
Kindle
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Greek for the Rest of Us by William D. Mounce
Kindle
Paperback

The Iliad by Homer
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Peter Pan by J.M. Barrie
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Flight of the Eagles by Gilbert L. Morris
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Sundered by Ernie Laurence Jr.
Kindle

Horus Rising by Dan Abnett
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

The Odyssey by Homer
Kindle
Paperback

D’Aulaires’ Book of Greek Myths by Ingri d’Aulaire
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

The Secret Door by Jenny Phillips
Paperback

Project Hail Mary by Andy Weir
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Passing the Torch An Apology for Classical Christian Education by Louis Markos
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

The Core by Leigh A. Bortins
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Agamemnon by Aeschylus
Kindle
Paperback

The Libation Bearers by Aeschylus
Kindle
Paperback

The Eumenides by Aeschylus
Kindle
Paperback

The Air We Breathe How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Adam of the Road by Elizabeth Janet Gray
Paperback
Audible

Maisie Dobbs by Jacqueline Winspear
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
Kindle
Paperback

Mr. Popper’s Penguins by Richard Atwater
Kindle
Paperback
Audible

Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
Kindle
Paperback

Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles
Kindle
Paperback

Antigone by Sophocles
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Andreas Köstenberger Interview ReduxHere are two of our interviews with the great Andreas Köstenberger. The first part was discussing his book in response to Bart Ehrman that we did on the show. The second being a join interview with Andreas Köstenberger and his co-author Gregory Goswell on their amazing Biblical Theology book. I have more Köstenberger books in my collection and have referenced his work in almost every message at church I’ve taught. He’s a blessing to the Church and a godly worker in the Lord. Enjoy listening to these interviews and a dream come true from my standpoint.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:44 – How Does He Write So Much?!
04:41 – The Importance Of Writing With Others
06:31 – On The Importance Of John & “Signs Of The Messiah”
08:23 – From Atheist Economist To Christian Theologian
14:09 – Setting His Target On Bart Ehrman
17:36 – The Inspiration For “Truth In A Culture Of Doubt”
19:00 – The Skeptic’s Problem Of The Problem Of Evil
23:15 – Bart Ehrman – The Poor Man’s Theologian
26:15 – Bart Ehrman’s Two Audiences
29:02 – The Layout Of “Truth In A Culture Of Doubt”
36:46 – Bart & Bauer Still Going – Why?
43:00 – Christianity Has A Reliance On Written Texts At The Beginning
47:23 – The Future & Needs Of New Testament Scholarship
49:25 – The Desire For Academics To Throw Out Truths Of Christianity
54:15 – Where Andreas Köstenberger Thinks The Future Of Apologetics Is Going
58:30 – Biblical Foundations Organization & Its Impact
01:02:25 – A Quick Review Of Biblical Theology
01:02:53 – The Division Of Labor & Working Together
01:06:13 – Biblical Theology Vs. Systematic Theology Or Partnership?
01:10:31 – How Biblical Theology Helps Our Presuppositions
01:15:40 – You Too Can Do Biblical Theology
01:17:30 – Ethics In Focus In Biblical Theology
01:27:07 – Theologians Share Surprises In Biblical Theology
01:31:28 – How To Use The Biblical Theology Book
01:36:10 – Other Points About The Book
01:38:57 – Conclusion

LINKSLINKS To Andreas Köstenberger
Biblical Foundations
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LINKS To Gregory Goswell
https://christcollege.edu.au/faculty/greg-goswell/

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09:50 – Finding Truth Playlist
14:17 – Ehrman Vs. Wallace Debate
25:36 – Ehrman Vs. White Debate
32:48 – Atheists Should Be Consistently Skeptical
37:09 – Michael J. Kruger Mashup


Books mentioned in this episode:Books mentioned in this episode:Truth In A Culture Of Doubt – Engaging Skeptical Challenges to the Bibleby Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw

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Signs Of The Messiah – An Introduction to John’s Gospel by Andreas Köstenberger

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Finding Truth – 5 Principles for Unmasking Atheism, Secularism, and Other God Substitutes by Nancy Pearcey

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Truth Matters – Confident Faith in a Confusing World by Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw

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Jesus And The Eyewitnesses – The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony by Richard Bauckham

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How To Be An Atheist – Why Many Skeptics Aren’t Skeptical Enough by Mitch StokesKindle – https://amzn.to/2Qgv0zW

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The Heresy Of Orthodoxy – How Contemporary Culture’s Fascination with Diversity Has Reshaped Our Understanding of Early Christianity by Michael J. Kruger & Andreas Köstenberger

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Christianity At The Crossroads – How the Second Century Shaped the Future of the Church by Michael J. Kruger

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The Cradle, the Cross, and the Crown: An Introduction to the New Testament by Andreas Köstenberger, L. Scott Kellum, Charles L Quarles

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Women in the Church – An Interpretation and Application of 1 Timothy 2:9-15 by Andreas Köstenberger & Thomas R. Schreiner

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God’s Design for Man and Woman – A Biblical-Theological Survey by Andreas Köstenberger & Margaret Elizabeth Köstenberger

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Apologetics At The Cross – An Introduction for Christian Witness by Josh Chatraw

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Telling A Better Story – How to Talk About God in a Skeptical Age by Josh Chatraw

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Evidence That Demands A Verdict – Life-Changing Truth for a Skeptical World by Josh McDowell & Sean McDowell

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God, Marriage, And Family – Rebuilding the Biblical Foundation by Andreas Köstenberger & David W. Jones

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Biblical Theology: A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach
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Church History Matters ReduxI absolutely love the people God has brought together in the scope of doing this podcast. One very good friend is Troy Frasier who helps run the Revived Thoughts podcast which takes sermons of the past and gets people to record them so they can be heard now in the present. I know! What a great concept! Here’s Troy and I sitting down to talk about why Church History matters for us today and all people in God’s historical timeline. Enjoy!

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
04:43 – Why Listen To Sermons From Church History
11:55 – How To Listen To Sermons Of History For The Ears Of Today
19:04 – The Sung Heroes Of Church History Should Be Sung
22:13 – The Unsung Heroes Of Church History Should Be Sung
23:35 – God’s Word Inspires People To Make History
26:04 – The Outlook We Can Have Because Of What Others Did In History
28:56 – The Definition Of Church History & Who’s Included
32:17 – The Christian Message Moves People To Move It
33:32 – Are You Letting The Gospel Move You?
42:22 – To Be Continued…Right Now!
42:32 – Looking Into The Past Of Church History To Live It Today
48:08 – Making Church History That Lasts Throughout History
51:14 – Don’t Look To Pop Culture When Church History Has The Hereos To Look At
55:33 – Scary Church History May Not Look Like Me!
01:00:27 – Should We Include Catholics In Church History? Mormons? JWs?
01:04:25 – Need A Biblical View Of History To Be Fair To People Of History
01:09:47 – The Hard Work Resulting From Church History Is Evident
01:12:45 – The Great Good For The World Christians Have Done In History
01:17:13 – The Judgement Of God When The Church Is Removed From Society
01:20:38 – Where To Find Good Resources On Church History
01:26:01 – Conclusion – Church History Matters!

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Cave To The Cross On Revived ThoughtsEvery episode we’ve done for Revived Thoughts can be found here – CaveToTheCross.com/RevivedThoughts

Revived Thoughts Episodes Mentioned03:32 – Martyrs & Missionaries – The Rise and Fall of Christianity in Japan Part I

03:32 – Martyrs & Missionaries – The Rise and Fall of Christianity in Japan Part II

15:06 – David Livingstone: Who will carry on the work?

15:06 – David Livingstone: The Heart Of Africa

15:11 – George Matheson: The Patience of Job

18:32 – Henry Grattan Guinness: Christian Charity (Feat. Dr. Os Guinness)

29:46 – Anselm: The Storm of the Last Days

30:00 – Deep Dive: The Story of Ethiopia

01:21:44 – Lightkeepers Reviews & Links


Books mentioned in this episode:The Life and Diary of David Brainerd by Jonathan Edwards
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Atheist Knows How God Would Act If He Did ExistThroughout this second part of Stein’s opening, he shows himself to be an atheist who doesn’t believe in God but definitively knows how that god would act if he did exist. Stein attempts to conflate logical contradiction with a psychological ickiness he perceives in the argument for God. Suffering, evil, justice, and how to act are things Stein knows how his made up god would act – a weird thing for someone who claims that he just lacks a belief.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:10 – All God Has To Do Is Appear To A Group Of People For Stein To Believe
06:14 – Stein Is Just Using His Unargued Presuppositions
10:00 – Stein Thinks He His god Wouldn’t Allow Suffering
12:48 – Stein Doesn’t Provide His Basis For Evil Or Good Or Logic
17:04 – Stein Doesn’t Think Sin Or Justice Is Fair
20:55 – Stein Doesn’t Believe In God Because Of Religious Pluralism
21:44 – Stein Sees Christianity As A Failure Because Christians Can Be Bad
24:06 – Stein Should Ask These Questions To A Christian
27:52 – What Does Stein Think He’s Left With?
29:33 – Conclusion


BOOK LINKS:The Great Debate – Does God Exist? – Edited and Commentary by Joshua Pillows

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Where Can One Stand To Call Out Evil?For the second opening to The Great Debate, Dr. Stein wants to call out Christians for not having any good proofs and also having a system that allows evil to be present in a world created by God. However, one must ask, where can one stand to call out evil? Or even good for that matter.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:34 – Two Main Cases For Why God’s Existence Hasn’t Been Proven
03:34 – Long Period Of Time With Failure Of Main Arguments For God’s Existence
06:37 – The Problem Of Evil Is An Issue For Theists
08:02 – God Definitely Doesn’t Exist But If He Did Exist He Wouldn’t Allow Evil
09:23 – Atheists Fail To Establish An Evil Standard Exists For Them To Use The Problem Of Evil
12:57 – Stein Not Convinced Of Next Life Justice Takes Care Of Evil
16:15 – Stein Allows For God Not To Be All Powerful – Uses Specific Christian Attack
17:22 – Stein Does Not Buy The Free Will Defense – One That Bahnsen Didn’t Make
18:04 – The Atheist Putting Onto The Christian Elements Of Their Worldview
22:48 – Conclusion


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Stein’s Assessment So FarNow it’s Gordon Stein’s turn to assess the debate so far. With Stein’s assessment he believes that Bahnsen hasn’t offered anything other than feelings based arguments and non sequiturs. He doesn’t feel the need to offer an explanation for why the universe exists and he sees laws of science, logic, and math only as agreed upon by consensus items. Why? What’s wrong with that?

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:34 – Does The Universe Require A Cause?
03:56 – Looking For How God Created
05:43 – God Is Very Knowable
08:04 – Scientific & Logic Laws Are Just Consensus According To Atheist
11:25 – Philosophical Death Is The Result
12:33 – Math Is Also Consensus
15:27 – An Atheist Universe Has Regularity Because Of Internal Properties
16:56 – The Cause Of The Universe Must Be A Part Of It Says Atheist
20:56 – Do Atheists Destroy All History Or Are Christians Only Feelings-Based?
25:35 – Stein Finally Deals With The Transcendental Argument
31:04 – Conclusion


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Bahnsen’s Assessment So FarEssentially round one is over and both debaters are going to give their take of the Great Debate. In Bahnsen’s assessment so far, he finds that Stein has not addressed his main argument for God and has also given up the debate with the idea that the laws of logic are just social conventions agreed upon by people. But – is that how people view logic and operate in their daily lives?

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:25 – The Atheist Isn’t Debating The Christian Yet
05:45 – Stein Hasn’t Dealt With Bahnsen’s Argument At All
07:13 – Stein’s Problematic Atheist Idea Of The Laws Of Logic
18:38 – The Atheist Unknowingly Gives The Win To The Christian By Convention
21:11 – Conclusion


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The First Sparring Of The Great DebateThe first sparring of The Great Debate takes place here with the Christian & atheist getting five questions to ask for the other to answer. While we aren’t used to this format, this really lays out the needed back and forth interaction that a lot of debates lack within a formal structure. It’s not the blood-sport debates we’re used to on YouTube but it helps with each side making sure the other is interacting with their points the best.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
03:22 – Q1 – Source For Atheism Definition
04:03 – A1 – Source Cited
05:15 – Q2 – Cite The Argument Used By Bahnsen
05:36 – A2 – No But You Believe It
06:49 – Q3 – Where’s The Transcendental Argument
07:50 – A3 – No Because It’s Not A Proof
08:12 – Commentary – Stein Was Helpful For Presuppositionalists
10:49 – Q4 – All Questions Answered The Same Way
11:08 – A4 – No They Are Not
11:34 – Q5 & A5 – What Does An Atheist Believe Laws Of Logic Are
14:21 – Atheist
14:41 – Q1 & Q2 – The Nature Of God
17:04 – Q2 & A2 – Is Your God All The Omnis
17:33 – Q3 & Q3 – If Argument Is Wrong Will God Not Exist
17:56 – Commentary – A Clarifying Comment On A “Problematic” Bahnsen
20:25 – Q4 & A4 – Is God Good
24:43 – Q5 & A5 – Can You Prove The Soul
26:38 – Conclusion


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9 More Attempts To Disprove GodHere are 9 more attempts by Dr. Gordon Stein to levy his critiques against traditional arguments for God. With all 11 of them, has there been any that have addressed the claims presented by Dr. Greg Bahnsen? What do you think about these critiques?

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:54 – The Revealed Theology Argument Taken Down – No Circles
02:57 – Presuppositional Christian Responds – Two Issues
06:20 – The Miracles Argument Taken Down – No Begging Allowed
07:56 – Presuppositional Christian Responds – Only Atheists Can Beg It Seems
10:35 – The Perfect God Argument Taken Down – Existence First
12:26 – Presuppositional Christian Responds – Agrees With Being Careful
13:37 – The Moral Argument Taken Down – Not Need & Different Values
15:29 – The Wish Argument Taken Down – Nice But Not True
16:21 – The Faith Argument Taken Down – No Reason Unless Reason
17:24 – Presuppositional Christian Responds – All Reason Rests On Faith
20:09 – The Religious Experience Argument Taken Down – It’s Only Feelings
21:56 – Presuppositional Christian Responds – Agree But For Different Reasons
22:30 – The Pascal’s Wager Argument Taken Down – How To Pick?
25:06 – Conclusion


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Atheist Attempts To Disprove GodIt’s now Dr. Gordon Stein’s turn in the debate. This atheist attempts to disprove God in 11 different ways. However, what seems to happen here is the use of an odd definition for God and an actual need for one more argument – the one Dr. Bahnsen uses.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
05:59 – Dr. Gordon Stein’s Opening Statement – On Facts
07:01 – Atheist Stein’s Definition Of Atheism
09:27 – Atheist Stein’s Definition Of God
11:45 – Atheist Takes Down 11 Proofs For The Existence Of God
13:38 – The Cosmological Argument Taken Down – The Uncaused Universe
16:40 – Joshua Pillows Commentary Against Stein’s Presentation
21:14 – Joshua Pillows Commentary Against The Cosmological Argument
23:55 – The Design Argument Taken Down – The Undesigned Universe
26:29 – The Life Argument Taken Down – The Unmoved Life
28:42 – Joshua Pillow Commentary Against Stein’s Induction
31:54 – Conclusion

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30:19 – Dr. Jason Lisle Does Some Science


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3 Important Claims In The Great DebateHere is Dr. Greg Bahnsen’s 3 important claims in the Great Debate. The first two are there to sweep away a lot of confusion Dr. Stein and other atheists have when it comes to the type of argumentation presuppositionalists use. Unfortunately, Dr. Stein didn’t seem to be prepared to actually engage in that type of debate as we’ll see in the coming weeks.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:36 – The 3 Claims Of Bahnsen’s Opening Statement
06:00 – Cracker’s Don’t Matter! – The Nature Of Evidence Between Christians & Atheists
11:12 – Presuppositional Conflict Of Worldviews
26:54 – The Transcendental Argument For God As A Positive Claim
31:49 – Conclusion


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Setting The StageWe open our 14th book by setting the stage for The Great Debate. We cover the Forward by Eli Ayala and Preface by Joshua Pillows, who give the background for the debate and speakers. Then we dive into Dr. Greg Bahnsen’s opening statement, where he uses most of his time covering what the debate is and what it isn’t. He also covers why he’s going to talk about the Christian form of theism and how the debate can be an objective matter and not a subjective one.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
03:39 – Forward By Eli Ayala (Revealed Apologetics)
09:07 – Preface To The Debate
14:56 – The Book’s Format
16:34 – Bahnsen’s Opening – Setting The Stage For The Debate
17:40 – 3 Reasons Why To Argue For Christian Theism Not General Theism
21:09 – Defining Your Terms & The Debate Is & Isn’t
22:34 – 3 Reasons To Focus On Objective Matters, Not Subjective
26:32 – The Nature Of The Debate
29:20 – Conclusion


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Book 14 AnnouncementFor our 14th book, we dive into one of the great moments for presuppositional apologetics. The debate between Greg Bahnsen and Gordon Stein in 1985 is a seminal watershed moment in apologetics history. Join us, starting next week, as we walk through the debate with the book The Great Debate edited and commented on by Joshua Pillows.


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Christianity Can Integrate With ScienceChristianity can integrate with science. In fact, the scientific revolution was only made possible because of the Christian worldview and those people who sought to discover just exactly how God ordered the universe. Only post-Enlightenment anachronistic history puts Christianity and science at odds with each other. So, this is our last plea to reject scientism and embrace a worldview that justifies true science.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:51 – How Should Christianity Integrate Science
01:50 – Suggestion 1 – The Two Realms Model
03:22 – Suggestion 2 – The Complementarian Model
05:06 – The Danger Of The Complementarian Model
09:14 – Suggestion 3 – The Presupposition Approach Model
10:27 – Suggestion 4 – The Practical Application Model
11:36 – Suggestion 5 – The Direct Interaction Model
13:40 – The Conflict This Model Causes
15:20 – When Should We Go Against The Experts In Science?
16:53 – Scenario 1 – Is There An Alt Bible Interpretation Available?
17:33 – Scenario 2 – A Set Of Experts That Goes Against The Other Experts
21:09 – Scenario 3 – If There Are Historic Or Philosophical Issues With Holding To The Majority Expert Views
26:00 – Scenario 4 – The Sociological Explanations For Forcing Majority Expert Views
27:44 – Scenario 5 – Theological Issues With Holding To Majority View
30:51 – Scenario 6 – Ideas That Go Against The Christian Worldview
32:41 – One Final Plea
34:53 – Conclusion


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Can Science Integrate With Christianity?Now that we have knocked down scientism, are Christians left without being able to use science? Is science without the worldview that provided for its justification and moral guards? Why not at all, says J. P. Moreland who provides a foundation for how science integrate with Christianity.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:39 – Can You Integrate Science & Christianity?
08:11 – 2 Types Of Integration – Conceptual & Personal
11:47 – 3 Ways Science Provides Rational Truth Claims For Christians
12:37 – 1 – Direct Defense
15:28 – 2 – Polemics
16:26 – 3 – Positive Christian Explanations
18:21 – Conclusion


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Why God Of The Gaps Is A Bad ObjectionWhile finishing our discussion on why methodological naturalism should be rejected, we deal with another bad objection to Christians having a place in the science world. The charge of believing in a “God of the gaps” is levied at Christians to scoff at their history in science. We take a look at it and offer up “nuh huh” and “you do it too”!

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
03:01 – The 2 Reasons To Reject Methodological Naturalism
03:49 – Science Already Allows For Intelligence As An Explanation
06:52 – Human Sciences Allow Intelligence As An Explanation
07:46 – Distortion Of Natural Science To Keep Out Intelligence
13:43 – Responding To The Bad God Of The Gaps Objection
15:54 – Objection 1 – God Is Not Limited To Gaps
17:41 – Objection 2 – Not Offering Evidence In Ignorance But Positive Explanation
21:43 – Objection 3 – There Are Gaps That Need Explanation
23:16 – Two Ways God Acts Intelligently That Gives Us Explanations
26:33 – Empirical Vs. Historical Science Doesn’t Count Out Intelligent Explanations
29:26 – Intelligence Design Differs From Creation Science
31:26 – Conclusion


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The Danger Of Methodological NaturalismBefore we talk about how Christianity should integrate science, we need to talk about how NOT to do it. The dangers of methodological naturalism aren’t realized for those in camps like theistic evolution. Here, we look at why methodological naturalism doesn’t work out for those who want to have both God and evolution.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:16 – One Bad Way To Integrate Christianity & Naturalism
03:05 – Intelligent Design Intro
03:59 – The Blind Watchmaker Is A Bad Argument
06:18 – Intelligent Design IS A Science
07:19 – Methodological Naturalism Should Be Rejected
08:19 – What Is Theistic Evolutionists
10:46 – The Revival Of Methodological Naturalism
13:48 – What’s Wrong With Theistic Evolution & Methodological Naturalism
17:03 – Failed Explanations For What Counts As Science
19:47 – Failed Explanation That Something Is Held Tentatively
21:16 – Failed Explanation That It Appeals To Natural Laws
22:35 – Conclusion


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Fine Tuning, Consciousness, & MoralityFinishing up on the 5 things science can’t explain: Fine Tuning, Consciousness, & Morality. In a “physical only” science setting these ideas are best left alone. It winds up either with no reason to hold anyone accountable for anything or the need to discard scientism and possibly let theism into the picture. GASP!

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:05 – Can’t Explain 3 – Fine Tuning
04:40 – Naturalists Attempt To Explain Away Fine Tuning
06:57 – The Destruction Of The Multiverse Theory
09:45 – Can’t Explain 4 – Origin Of Consciousness
12:13 – Science Fails To Provide An Explanation Of Mental States
13:54 – Science Fails To Provide An Explanation Mind-Body Relationship
17:12 – Why Science Fails At Mind-Body Relationship Explanation
20:31 – Can’t Explain 5 – Morality, Rationality, & Esthetic Laws
23:54 – Conclusion


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Science Can’t Explain Origin Or LawsLooking at how philosophy first holds its place over science, we look at five things science can’t explain – but Theism can. Two of those things it can’t explain are origin or laws. That is, the origin of the universe and the fundamental laws of nature. You’d think this would be an area that science could tackle. However, naturalism fails to explain both, and science needs theism to get it started.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:58 – 5 Things Science Can’t Explain But Theism Can
03:38 – There Are Many Things Science Can’t Explain And That’s Ok
04:36 – Can’t Explain 1 – The Origin Of The Universe
04:57 – Philosophical Evidence Of The Beginning Of The Universe
08:58 – The Scientific Evidence Of The Beginning Of The Universe
12:12 – Something Comes From Nothing – How Science Cheats At Nothing
15:30 – The Cause Of The Universe Is Personal & How Science Fails To Explain Other
17:57 – 3 Reasons Science Can’t Explain The Origin Of The Universe
21:02 – 2 Outcomes From The Result Of Science Not Being Able To Explain The Origin Of The Universe
23:18 – Can’t Explain 2 – The Origin Of Fundamental Laws Of Nature
24:15 – Conclusion


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Lairs, Evils Beasts, Lazy GluttonsOn vacation this week, so this is my (Patrick’s) message on the final portion of Titus, Titus 3:12-15. With epistle beginnings and endings, sometimes we glance over them and view them as superfluous or boring. But those are just as authoritative and important as any portion of God’s Word to His Church. We read these sections, and we can meet the challenge – don’t be bored, be active!

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Philosophy’s Authority Over SciencePreviously, we looked at the authority philosophy has over science, and now we look at philosophy’s authority over science. From what beaker to grab to remembering equations to what to write in that peer-reviewed study, the initial steps one makes and concludes is all philosophical. Those most hurt? Scientists and atheists. Big mad.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:12 – The Autonomy Thesis Of Philosophy
03:51 – The Characteristics Of Science Comes From The Philosophers
05:34 – Methodological Naturalism Fails To Establish Causation
07:50 – 1st & 2nd Order Distinctions Needed Between Science & How To Do Science
09:03 – Philosophy Can Be Independent & More Authoritative Than Science
11:06 – Christians Don’t Have To Freak Out Over Current Day Scientific Claims
13:25 – Methodological Naturalism Struggles To Keep Intelligent Design Out Of Science
15:19 – Ch. 11 – How Do We Explain Things?
16:00 – Two Types Of Explanations – Scientific & Personal
16:27 – Scientific Explanations Defined
19:00 – Personal Explanations Defined
22:16 – Criteria For Things That Are Scientific Unexplainable
28:34 – Conclusion


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Education Is Classical EducationWe welcome Martin Cothran from Memoria Press today. Mr. Cothran is a proponent of one of the best educational models that has built the Western world. Education is classical education or it is not education. We discuss what is classical education, why it works, how it teaches both the mind and the whole person in virtue. We also discuss books, a dangerous subject with Mr. Cothran – dangerous for bank accounts. It was a true pleasure to talk with a hero of classical education.

TIMELINE:00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:42 – Martin Cothran Introduction
00:01:50 – Previous Episodes On Education
00:03:06 – What Is Classical Education?
00:09:53 – Terminology Of Classical Education
00:13:11 – How Does Classical Education Shape The Intellectual & Moral Development?
00:17:40 – God’s Story Helps Us Tell Our Story
00:22:29 – Education Builds Virtue; Govt Schools Can’t Do This
00:24:59 – Why Is Classical Education The Way We Should Do Education?
00:34:20 – How Classical Education Helps Students Teach Themselves
00:42:53 – Classical Education Passes On Western Culture
00:49:16 – The Importance Of Books In Classical Education
00:54:55 – How To Read Good Books
01:05:19 – Cheryl Lowe And Memoria Press
01:10:33 – Conclusion


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00:01:56 – Previous Education EpisodesEpisode 191 + Episode 192 + Episode 286 + Episode 287
00:06:26 – A Defense Of Classical Education – R.W. Livingston

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The Authority Of Philosophy Over ScienceIf you think the atheists are mad and don’t watch our videos before commenting, wait till they don’t see this one!

In continuing the argument that philosophy should be considered first before one considers their science, we look at how the authority of philosophy is not only substantiated by philosophers but even by scientists who want to try and get around philosophy. Also, when they come into conflict with issues within their framework, they don’t show you a science experiment but give you a philosophical argument. Suspicious, indeed!

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:33 – Authority And Autonomy In Philosophy
02:47 – Authority Of Philosophy Over Science
05:14 – Philosophical Claims Greater Than Scientific For The Beginning Of Everything
07:21 – Stephen Hawking’s Failure To Have No Beginning Of The Universe
09:08 – Philosophers Show How Hawking Is Wrong
13:21 – Science Fails To Talk About Nothing When They Say Something About Nothing
15:54 – Science Fails To Discover The Origin Of Life; But Philosophy Does Better
21:41 – Conclusion


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Philosophy First!The goal is not to reject science. It’s understanding the failure that scientism provides when it comes to understanding. However, adopting a philosophy first framework provides the foundation for science to function (and the presuppositions needed for the necessary preconditions of intelligibility). So he’s the case for adopting First Philosophy.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:44 – Recovering Philosophy First In Knowledge
03:07 – Two Benefits Of 1st Philosophy
03:45 – The War Against 1st Philosophy
05:07 – The Two Theses Of 1st Philosophy
06:30 – The Negative Outcomes Of Rejecting 1st Philosophy
07:35 – The Purpose Of Philosophy According To Scientism
09:48 – Why They Reject 1st Philosophy – Starting Assumptions
11:09 – Why They Reject 1st Philosophy – Disagreement Among Philosophy
12:40 – Why They Reject 1st Philosophy – Cartesian Certainty
13:35 – Foundationalism Vs. Cartesian Certainty
17:53 – Cartesian Certainty Impossibility
22:20 – Conclusion


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Scientism Is Not All In The HeadHere’s a case study in which desiring only naturalist scientific explanations won’t get you anywhere – consciousness. When it comes to the mind, one either has to reject the mind and therefore consciousness or reject a purely naturalistic science. Scientism is not all in the head, it seems.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:59 – The Human Consciousness Speaks Against Scientism
01:27 – Defining Our Terms – 3rd Person Vs. 1st Person POV
03:17 – What Is Consciousness & How Does One Know They Are
05:34 – The Immaterial Dualism Of Consciousness
08:21 – 5 Reasons Mental States Are Not Physical
08:27 – Mental States Are Feeling States
09:25 – Mental States Are Directed About An Object
10:40 – Mental States Are Internal & Private To Only One Person
11:49 – Mental States Are Subjective
12:07 – Mental States Fail to Have Crucial Features
12:51 – Human Consciousness Destroys Naturalism-Only Scientism
14:49 – Philosophical Behaviorism Failed To Naturalize Consciousness
16:34 – Type Identity Theory Failed To Naturalize Consciousness
18:44 – Functionalism Failed To Naturalize Consciousness
21:32 – Naturalistic Scientism Has Ruined Ideas Of Consciousness
24:30 – Conclusion


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Other Sources Of KnowledgeWell, if science doesn’t give us all knowledge, what are other sources of knowledge? Well here are three areas where we not only obtain knowledge but we tend to have more confidence in it – than even science.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:04 – Science Is Showy, Philosophy Is Talky
05:16 – Scientism Has Invaded The Church
07:56 – Scientism Diminishes Other Disciplines That Provide Truth
09:14 – Why Reject Weak Scientism Specifically
12:20 – Weak Scientism Gives Too Much Weight To Claims And Not To Underlying Assumptions
14:03 – Weak Scientism Gives Don’t Give Enough Weight Underlying Assumptions Deserve
15:38 – What View Makes Better Sense Of Reality
19:37 – Conclusion


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Weak Scientism Is WeakOk, strong scientism is bad because it denies any other field the ability to provide truth and in making the claim it becomes self-refuting. But what about weak scientism which lets a few areas have their claims to help support the Science(TM)? Well even weak scientism is weak and must be rejected. Find out why in this episode. Or comment on it without watching it like the atheists do.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:04 – Science Is Showy, Philosophy Is Talky
05:16 – Scientism Has Invaded The Church
07:56 – Scientism Diminishes Other Disciplines That Provide Truth
09:14 – Why Reject Weak Scientism Specifically
12:20 – Weak Scientism Gives Too Much Weight To Claims And Not To Underlying Assumptions
14:03 – Weak Scientism Gives Don’t Give Enough Weight Underlying Assumptions Deserve
15:38 – What View Makes Better Sense Of Reality
19:37 – Conclusion


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Lairs, Evils Beasts, Lazy GluttonsWe are taking a break for the 4th of July weekend but you can listen to the message I taught on Titus 1:10-12 to my (Patrick’s) church’s college group. Here I discuss the types of false teachers Titus will encounter on the island of Crete and why the Greeks on Crete are like the way they are. Having been reading Greek writings this year has helped in the background prep of this. Who knew a classical education and its content would help with learning?!


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Presuppositions Of ScienceWe look at how scientism destroys science by denying the ability to do science. How is that the case? Because scientism denies the six presuppositions of science. We discuss that here.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:59 – Science Has Presuppositions
04:53 – Presupposition #1 – A World Exists Outside Of Humanity
07:09 – Someone Actually Thinks There Isn’t?!
09:17 – Presupposition #2 – The Nature Of The World Is Orderly
16:33 – Presupposition #3 – Objective Truth Exists
18:54 – Presupposition #4 – Humanity Is Able To Discover & Know Truth
25:38 – Presupposition #5 – Values & Oughts Exist
28:43 – Presupposition #6 – Laws Of Logic & Mathematics Exist
31:29 – But Scientists Still Believe These Things – Exactly
32:25 – Conclusion


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Scientism Is Self-RefutingNow that we’ve defined our terms about scientism, what makes it so dangerous? Here we introduce that scientism is self-refuting. This matters because the claims scientism makes means that it then makes science impossible to do. Moreland gives six presuppositions that actual science rests upon and in upcoming episodes we’ll look at those presuppositions.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
03:09 – Strong Scientism Is Self-Refuting
04:32 – What Self-Refuting Actually Means
06:24 – Examples Of Self-Refuting
08:29 – Wrong Vs. Self-Refuting Claims
10:51 – Why Is Strong Scientism Self-Refuting?
12:21 – No Amount Of Research Will Change It
14:40 – Scientism Is the Enemy of Science
15:25 – Scientism Actually Destroys Science
16:41 – Philosophical Presuppositions To Do Science
19:39 – 6 Presuppositions One Needs To Do Science
21:22 – The Issues Scientism Has With The 6 Presuppositions Of Science
22:18 – Conclusion


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The Ugly Source Of ScientismWhere did scientism come from? What is the ugly source of scientism? Would anyone be shocked to learn that the love of war and government overreach has led to negative outcomes? This includes universities divorcing their ethics lessons from everything but the humanities. Now, the source for moralism in college is…football?

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:19 – Scientism Has Led To Increased Hostility Towards Christianity
02:11 – Scientism Has Hurt The Church
03:56 – Scientism Attempts To Redefine Faith & Christianity
10:50 – Scientism Has Hurt Christian Parents
13:58 – Where Did Scientism Come From?
16:58 – We Used to Be A Proper University
21:45 – War & Government Changed University Education Forever – Shocking!
29:53 – The Burden Of Ethics Fell Onto The Humanities & Sports
32:16 – Aristotle, Moses, Jesus…Joe Montana?
33:47 – Where We Now Find Ourselves
34:58 – The Church Now Has An Opportunity
36:42 – Conclusion


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Scientism Ruins LivesNow that we’ve defined scientism, we have to talk about why it matters. How scientism ruins lives of us in our so-called modern world. It is exactly those ideas that the West, western science, and Christianity helped to bake into the culture that are eroding away. It’s almost like a foundation has been replaced with sand and it’s shifting.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:46 – Why Should We Care About Scientism
03:52 – Scientists Puts Moral & Spiritual Claims Outside Consideration
06:12 – The Rise Of Scientists That Want To Tell You How You Ought To Live
08:00 – Scientism Makes Doubting Christianity & Western Philosophy A Default
10:05 – Scientism Has Negatively Shifting Our Culture
11:35 – Example – Oprah, 9-11, And Scientism
14:42 – Scientism Interrupts Truth To Satisfaction Knowledge
17:05 – Scientism Destroys Duty And Virtue Morals
21:13 – Scientism Destroys Freedom & Leads To Moral Bankruptcy
23:31 – Scientism Destroys Actual Tolerance Of People
30:24 – Conclusion


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Defining ScientismWe kick off our book on scientism by doing what we always advocate for – defining our terms. Here, J.P. Moreland is defining scientism and explaining exactly why it is a dangerous ideology. We then go on to list a few examples from the world of politics, social advice, government schools, and even scientists themselves.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:59 – The Scientific Air We Breathe
04:22 – Defining Scientism
06:10 – Examples Of Scientism
07:36 – Stem Cell Research Scientism Example
09:05 – Responding To The Example
10:54 – Reasoning Comparison Advice Scientism
14:04 – Scientism Is The Required Dogma In California Government Schools Example
16:51 – Scientism From Scientists Examples – Strong & Weak Versions
20:29 – Conclusion

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Introduction To Moreland & His BookWe kick off our book looking at not only the introduction of the book, but the introduction to Moreland and who he is and his background. This is a wonderful reading on the science background of J.P. Moreland and shows us why he’s the guy to write a book on scientism and its dangers to the Church and the world.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:30 – Raising Up A Generation Of Daniels In A Babylonian World
05:20 – Patrick Is Already Having An Issue With Something
06:55 – The Issue Of Scientism Christians Should Have
08:07 – The Background Of J.P. Moreland, Scientist & Philosopher
15:21 – The Issue Not With Science But Scientism
18:12 – Conclusion


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Book 13 AnnouncementWow, has it been 13 books already? Why, yes it has. Book 13! This week is introduction week and the links to the book are in this description. Hope you can join us starting next week!


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Miracle Claims Vs. HumeAnd as we wind down our takedown of Hume, we take one final look at Miracle Claims vs. Hume. We address the valid question about competing miracle claims as well as looking at if the Western worldview has outpaced the belief in miracles. Is it over? Have miracles been knocked out of the picture? Well – I didn’t hear no bell.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:58 – We Wouldn’t Want Hume To Be Biased – Right?
01:52 – What About Competing Miracle Claims?
03:05 – Answering The Objection About Competing Claims
05:59 – Contemporary Of Hume Critical
07:07 – Not All Systems Claim Miracles
07:53 – Not All Miracle Claims Are Equal
12:05 – We Should First Check Our Presuppositions Before We Deny Miracle Claims
15:33 – A Shift In The Western Worldview Against Miracles
22:39 – Do Modern People Even Believe In Miracles?
26:29 – Modern Academia Needs To Recognize Its Bias
28:58 – Conclusion

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Hume’s Biased NaturalismComing into the final episodes of this book, we go after Hume’s naturalism being viewed as unbiased science. In fact, it is biased, can’t help but be biased, and by claiming not to want to take sides in religious debates…takes sides in religious debates. Hume’s biased naturalism has been unchallenged in academia, but not here on this highly, HIGHLY respected show.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:11 – The Biased Naturalism In-Group Of History Keeps Out Miracle Claims
03:54 – Biased Naturalism Don’t Even See Their Own Presuppositions
05:37 – Naturalists & Miracles Should Meet Each Other On Their Presuppositions
09:00 – Naturalists Don’t Want To Accept Others’ Experiences
12:58 – History Bringing In Those Scary Religious Nuts
16:14 – Critiquing Not Letting Miracles Into History Explanations
23:28 – Conclusion


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Hume Humiliated In HistoryAfter looking at the science and philosophy of Hume, we now look at his take and impact on history. With looking at how the academy views the science of history we see that Hume is humiliated in history because he helped change what good history actually looks like. We discuss what that looks like and the repercussions here.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:39 – Answering The False Principle Of Analogy For Miracles
05:25 – Defining History To Exclude The Possibility Of Miracles
10:23 – Prejudging History Before Looking Into It
12:07 – A Naturalism Of The Gaps
14:08 – History Is A Series Of Unique Events Just Like Miracles
17:25 – The Problem With Ruling Out Miracles As A Unique Kind Of Event
23:16 – When Only Natural Scientists Try To Answer Why The Civil War Began
25:03 – Conclusion


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Agents Enter Into The PictureA little shorter episode this week as this section and the next section have two different focuses. We look at how Hume seems to carve out outside agents enter into the picture to save natural law. The only problem with that is then you leave out those pesky humans to be able to enter into the normal course of events to upset it all.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – God Acting As Divine Acts Not Violations Of Nature
03:59 – Hume Has No Possibility Of Agents Enter Into Causes
06:39 – Miracles As Contingent Events
08:49 – Metaphysical Needs Over Scientific Language
11:16 – Conclusion


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The Bad Effects Of Hume’s PhilosophyThe bad effects of Hume’s philosophy might not seem apparent on the surface; people have been disagreeing about miracles even as they happen. Yet, Hume supported locking people up in insane asylums who believed miracles happened. And while his support for his movement crumbled while failing to uphold its own standard, it led to religious studies being devalued and it helped in the lead up to liberalism in Christianity.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:22 – Hume’s Philosophy On Miracles Is A Mess
02:56 – Hume Is Raised Up, Let’s Cast Him Down
03:59 – The Effects Of Hume’s Arguments
04:01 – Hume Wants All Religious People In Mental Hospitals
06:04 – Hume’s Thinking Throughout Religious Studies From Consideration
08:34 – Hume’s Logic Fails Its Own Standard & Wipes Out Other Areas Of Knowledge
11:32 – Scientists – Hume Is Dead, Long Live Hume
12:24 – The Effects Of Hume’s Philosophical Skepticism
13:28 – Hume’s Effect On Religion – The Rise Of Liberalism
19:56 – The Unsound Science Of Hume Is Unrealized Philosophy
22:26 – Conclusion


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Circular David Hume & His CriticsFinishing up looking at David Hume’s Philosophy and we see that Hume is being so circular that you’ll find yourself dizzy. While he redefines miracles, provides circular arguments, and then begs the question, Hume won’t even allow the possibility of a miracle claim to be presented to be considered. Ol’ circular David Hume is not being a good philosopher and he’s being a bit lazy.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:20 – Hume’s Circular Argument Is Enough To Make Your Head Spin
04:30 – Hume Might Have Argued Slightly – Racistly
05:42 – Hume’s Being Lazy Even Though He Claimed An Inductive Argument
08:32 – Critics Of Hume During His Day
08:58 – William Paley’s Hume Smackdown
11:11 – James B. Mozley On Hume Not Allowing For Evidence To Be Presented
14:11 – People Today Are More Against Hume Than Ever Before
15:10 – Hume’s Circular Arguments Begs The Question Of Miracles
18:25 – Conclusion


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Hume Destroys Testimony – All TestimonyHume is back at it again with destroying more of our ability to know things. Here, we look at how Hume destroys testimony – all testimony. His standard for witnesses is so unreasonable that no witnesses can match it. His description of the normal goings of nature leaves no room for unusual events – even events we know happen. Hume is really losing a lot just to not accept miracles.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:10 – Hume Mistreats Witnesses Because Of Nature
04:13 – Hume Wouldn’t Let Witnesses Into Courts No Matter How Good The Math Is
07:30 – Hume’s Standard For Witnesses Doesn’t Allow For Witness Evidence
10:00 – Hume Is Swine Before Casted Pearls
11:26 – No Uniform Experience Of Miracles That Hume Wants
13:29 – Hume Doesn’t Get What He Wants With Witnesses
15:00 – Unusual Events Doesn’t Mean Unreliable
15:56 – A Documented Unusual Event With Witnesses – Hume Would Ignore It!
17:43 – What About The Lottery? An Argument Based On Presupposition
20:09 – We Should Expect Unlikely Events At Times
23:29 – Summary
24:31 – Conclusion


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Can Hume Get A Witness?Looking at David Hume’s philosophy on miracles, now we find ourselves not seeing Hume interact with miracle claims, but questioning if someone can even be a witness to a miracle. Can Hume get a witness? It seems his standard is both circular and redefining of key terms. We see that taking Hume at his standard not only allows for no inductive evidence to come in but leads to some repercussions in daily life that would destroy most of our knowledge. So, ya know, the small things.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:14 – Hume’s Epistemology – Deductive Rather Inductive
04:25 – Begging The Question With Uniformity Of Nature
06:38 – Hume Wanting Testimony – No! Not That Testimony!
07:56 – Surveying Witnesses And Their Interpretations Of Miracles
10:14 – Hume’s Circularity With Human Experience & Uniformity Of Nature
12:31 – Hume’s Circularity Of What Makes For A Good Witness To Miracles
15:00 – Dismissing What’s Never Been Seen With People Who Have Claimed To See It
15:57 – Grant Hume His Standard And See What Happens – Ut Oh!
18:50 – We All Rely On Testimony To Live & In Life
20:35 – Conclusion


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Dismantling David HumeWe start dismantling David Hume at the best place to start – the beginning. Hume’s definition of miracles, his epistemology, and his claim of neutrality are the best places to see if the foundation of his critique cracks or even fails to support his claims.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:35 – Hume & The Philosophy Of Science
02:55 – Hume As Rhetorician Of Old Ideas
03:44 – Not All Empiricists Followed Hume’s Skepticism
04:34 – The Real Rise Of Anti-Miracles During The Time Of Hume
05:26 – Hume’s Basis For Being Anti-Miracle
07:46 – Where Could One Allow For Miracles To Be Considered On A Regular Basis
09:01 – Miracles – Theology Over Science
10:39 – Hume’s Violations Of Natural Law – For No Reason
16:49 – Theism’s Definition Of Natural Law Vs. Hume’s
18:54 – Hume’s Own Violation Of His Epistemology – Induction
24:13 – Hume’s Not Neutral Argument For Miracles
30:12 – Conclusion


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The Intro To Critiquing David HumeWe enter our into to critiquing David Hume by setting the stage for what our author will talk about. We do what should always be done with philosophical concepts and that is define our terms! Then we provide some background history to set the stage for giving Hume his due.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:40 – What To Do With David Hume?
05:55 – 5 Things To Address With David Hume
10:22 – The Nature Of The Question – Naturalism Methodology Vs. Philosophical Naturalism
12:57 – An Accurate Definition Of A Miracle – Not Hume’s
13:58 – The Ability To Examine Evidence For Miracles
15:42 – What It Takes To Not Allow God To Be An Explanation For Maybe Miracles
18:52 – Hume’s Argument From Nature Is Problematic
19:49 – The Philosopher Most Influential Against Miracles During The Time of Hume – Wasn’t Hume
20:06 – Spinoza Defining Out Answers To Miracle Claims
24:07 – Conclusion

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Unbiased Ancient Historians & Biased Modern Day OnesBefore we dig into Hume, we finish our discussion on unbiased ancient historians and then bring in the fact that modern day historians tend to be more biased. Both cases interact with miracle claims but it seems that ancient historians tend to deal with those claims in a more fair way than modern skeptics.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:13 – Ancient Writers Did Include Miracle Accounts Without Sensationalizing Them
05:02 – Livy & Tacitus – Ancient Historians Who Did Not Deny Miracles
06:20 – Known Historical Fiction Vs. Known Historical Facts
07:48 – “It Is Said…” Was Said By Ancient Historians To Allow People To Make Up Their Own Minds
09:04 – Ancient Historians Were Not Radical Enlightenment Skeptics But They Did Know Levels Of Evidence Of Miracles
10:27 – Ancient Plausibility Structures
12:29 – Josephus – A Jewish Writer To A Greek Audience When It Comes To Miracles
13:19 – Luke – A Greek Writer Of Miracles And Understands They Are Weird
15:32 – Modern Western Skepticism Towards Miracles
17:06 – No Need To Assume Modern Anti-Supernaturalism Reading Of History
18:54 – Our Cultural Limitations When It Comes To Miracle Claims In History
21:16 – Our Privileged Particular Western Worldview When It Comes To History & Miracles
25:56 – Historians And The Limits Of Their Experience Effects Their Work
30:16 – Overview Of Ancient Historian Claims Of Miracles & Current Historians Bias
32:09 – Conclusion


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Ye Ol’ SkepticsKicking off our discussion on miracles we go back to Ye Ol’ Times and see if there are any Ye Ol’ Skeptics of miracles claims. Or do we take the Enlightenment unenlightened view that everyone just believed everything and it wasn’t until the Smarty Pants Times did we learn to properly scoff at historical claims of miracles. Well, if only someone had written down history during that time. If only.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:35 – Craig Keener and His Books
02:14 – What The Discussion Will Cover
04:16 – Is Antisupernaturalism The Default View?
10:05 – Historians Use Miracle Claims To Easily Dismiss Historical Accounts – But At What Cost?
11:44 – What Did Ancient Historians Think Of Miracle Claims?
13:01 – Ancient Historians’ Skepticism Towards Miracles
13:12 – Galen, 2nd Century Miracle Skeptic – Based On Morality & Reason
17:34 – Ovid, Created Miracle Skeptic Fictional Characters
18:41 – Polybius, Critiquing Over-Sensationalism Of Miracles In Early Historians
20:16 – Summary – There Were Ancient Historians Skeptical Of Miracle Claims
20:51 – Conclusion


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Book 12 AnnouncementHere’s the announcement for the next book we’ll be discussing. The way we’re going to cover this one is a little different than the ones we’ve done in the past. It’ll be a miracle – if we ever get through it. It’ll take someone with a Keener eye for sure.

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Natural Law & Divine Command Response To Woke TheologyIn our final episode on Christian Ethics – 4 Views, we cover the issues against Woke Theology from both the Natural Law & Divine Command response. Both responders have three big issues with Prophetic Ethics even if there is some agreement with the theory. Thanks for joining us with this book. What did you think? How was the format? Did one side convince you over the others? Stay tuned for our trailer for our next book.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:01 – 3 Natural Law Issues To Prophetic Ethics
03:44 – #1 – No Agreed Upon Definition Of What Is A Just Society
10:24 – #2 – Social Justice Is Only One Portion Of Life
15:05 – #3 – Social Justice Is Not The Only Response To Injustice
18:25 – 3 Divine Command Issues With Prophetic Ethics’ Bible Study
20:03 – #1 – No Personal Sin Only Societal
22:43 – #2 – Jesus Give Believers Other Duties Other Than Ruling Over Creation
25:22 – #3 – Jesus Isn’t A Jazz Conductor With The Law Of God
27:42 – Why Divine Command Is Needed Over Prophetic Ethics
29:35 – Summary Of The Book
30:42 – Conclusion


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Woke Theology Needs Proper HermeneuticsWith the final critique of our four ethics we end with the Virtue Ethics’ response to Prophetic Ethics. A very important point made is how Woke Theology needs proper hermeneutics. There is a missing element, according to Virtue Ethics that Woke Theology has and without it it lets other narratives come in and fill the missing elements with something else and it doesn’t even have to be Christian.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:20 – Virtue Ethics Response To Prophetic Ethics – In Agreement
03:15 – Virtue Ethics On Prophetic Ethics Missing Answering Why Questions
09:46 – Virtue Ethics Questions Prophetic Ethics Bible Hermeneutics
13:00 – Where Are All The Virtuous Prophetic Ethics Scholars?
13:44 – The Need For Individual Ethics In Prophetic Ethics
16:12 – Prophetic Ethics Needs To Be Able To Apply To The Boring Things In Life Too
19:54 – Conclusion


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2024 In Review Sci-Fi, IndiePub, & Theology EtcThe final 21 books of 2024 in review. It’s not about how many you read but that you’re reading good books…but also I read to my goal and past it neener neener neener! Also, my apologies to anyone whose name I mispronounced. I’m a reader, not a pronouncer. See ya next week as we finish our book on Christian ethics!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:20 – Faith Has Its Reasons by Kenneth D. Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr.
02:15 – Disturber of the Peace by William Manchester
06:11 – J. Gresham Machen by Ned B. Stonehouse
10:23 – We Shall Fight on the Beaches by Jacob F. Field
11:52 – Silence and Starsong Magazine – Spring 2023, Volume 1 Number 1 Edited by Joseph Knowles
16:55 – The Chaplain’s War by Brad R. Torgersen
20:49 – A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
23:25 – The Shape of My Eyes by Dave Gibbons
24:52 – Foundational Truths – A Modern Catechism by Israel Wayne
27:00 – Christ Over Culture by Andrea Crum
29:28 – Saved – Experiencing the Promise of the Book of Acts by Nancy Guthrie
30:40 – Gray Wrath by Terrence Poppa
34:10 – The Seven Liberal Arts, a Study in Mediaeval Culture by Paul Abelson
36:39 – The Door in the Dragon’s Throat by Frank Peretti
39:13 The Autobiography of Ben Franklin by Benjamin Franklin
41:19 – The Journey of Five by Jenny Phillips
43:02 – Little Amish Schoolhouse by Ella Maie Seyfert
43:39 – Record of The Paladins: Book of Oliver by B.P. McCoppin
46:56 – How to Read a Book – Advice for Christian Readers by Andrew David Naselli
48:47 – Everyday Gospel Christmas Devotional by Paul David Tripp
49:36 – The Fellowship of The Ring by J.R.R. Tolkien
52:45 – Conclusion


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2024 Sci-Fi, IndiePub, & Theology Etc. In ReviewWe need just a couple more weeks to conclude our Christian ethics book so here are Patrick’s book reviews from 2024. Biography and Indiepub heavy, it was overall a good reading year with just a few bad choices. Have you read any of these or pick any up?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:28 – The Love and Respect Devotional by Emerson Eggerichs
04:06 – Deathbringer by Blake Carpenter
08:20 – All Systems Red by Martha Wells
09:32 – Redeemed By Blood by Shannon Baker
11:34 – Defeating Evil by Scott Christensen
13:24 – Lost and Found by Robert E. Kearns
16:05 – After Moses by Michael F. Kane
20:29 – The Button Girl by Sally Apokedak
23:59 – A Case of Conscience by James Blish
26:05 – Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy
29:05 – All These Worlds by Dennis E. Taylor
30:46 – Hacking Galileo by Fenton Wood
33:23 – Timothy of the 10th Floor by Jenny Phillips
35:11 – Defenders of the West by Raymond Ibrahim
39:04 – I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison
40:36 – The Heights of Perdition by C.S. Johnson
44:41 – The Revenant and the Cult, Book One by Herman P. Hunter
47:16 – Drosselmeyer – Curse of the Rat King by Paul Thompson
49:08 – Hidden Fury by Bjorn Hasseler
51:00 – The Kingdom of Kind by Jenny Phillips
52:28 – Mist and Moonbeams by Paul Michael Peters


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After Moses by Michael F. Kane
The Button Girl by Sally Apokedak
A Case of Conscience by James Blish
Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy
All These Worlds by Dennis E. Taylor
Hacking Galileo by Fenton Wood
Timothy of the 10th Floor by Jenny Phillips
Defenders of the West by Raymond Ibrahim
I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison
The Heights of Perdition by C.S. Johnson
The Revenant and the Cult, Book One by Herman P. Hunter
Drosselmeyer – Curse of the Rat King by Paul Thompson
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The New Social Justice Monastic PeriodFinishing up the presentation on the Prophetic Ethics (Woke Theology), we cover the method of the movement. Here, there’s a call for a new social justice Monastic period. One that acknowledges the racism of America and embrace MLK’s call to redeem society and Bonhoeffer’s finding power in a Black Jesus.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:20 – Method Of Prophetic Ethics
03:41 – Racism – America’s Original & Ongoing Sin
06:24 – MLK & The Call To Redeem Society
08:12 – Bonhoeffer & Looking For Black Jesus
10:53 – Christ In Powers & The New Jim Crow
13:06 – The New Monostatic Period
15:20 – Conclusion


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Christian Social Justice EthicFor our final model of ethics we cover Prophetic Ethics. Here the model is focused not so much on personal ethics but societal ethics. Thus social justice is the ethos for the Christian. Patrick – he…he just doesn’t do that good of a job on being objective here. Tony is always the professional though.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:51 – Ethics Is Not Just Personal But Societal
07:13 – Scripture Is The Primary Source In Prophetic Ethics
08:27 – Comparing The Nation Of Israel To The Church
11:13 – Biography As Ethics
12:01 – The 3 Practices Of Prophetic Ethics
15:05 – Jesus As A Revolutionary Prophet
16:50 – Prophetic Ethics Is Transformational Discipleship
20:43 – Continued Next Week


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Disagreeing With Divine Command EthicsThis week we cover with the final two outlooks that do more disagreeing with Divine Command Ethics than Virtue Ethics did. Here, Natural Law Ethics presents some interesting considerations. The Prophetic Ethics…well, there’s a reason I call it Woke Theology.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:27 – Natural Law Agrees With 2 Areas Of Divine Command
05:17 – Agreement Between Commands & Obligations
06:52 – Commands Aren’t The Only Or Typical Way Humans Get Obligations
10:39 – 5 Other Ways Humans Are To Figure Out What To Do Other Than Divine Commands
13:58 – Are NT Believers Commanded To Take Care Of Others?
19:04 – Prophetic Ethics Likes That Divine Command Responds To Supersessionism
21:22 – Divine Command Relies Too Much On Kant And Not Enough On Jesus
22:50 – Divine Command Anglicanism Is Too Racist To Be True
27:09 – Conclusion


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Responding To Divine Command EthicsWe start the response of our third Christian ethical system by having the Virtue Ethics responding to Divine Command Ethics. Here, our V.E. fellow has many good things to say about the D.C. fellow. Three minor issues that could use some shoring up but a major one is leveled. Do you think this knocks out Divine Command Ethics from contention?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
04:18 – Virtue Ethics Likes 2 Parts To Divine Command Ethics
09:19 – 3 Minor Issues And 1 Major Issue
10:20 – Minor Issue 1 – Individual Vs. Group Commands
13:45 – Minor Issue 2 – God’s Advice Vs. Commands
17:44 – Minor Issue 3 – Generic Kant Without The Specifics
21:23 – Major Issue – Why Is Christianity All About Commands?
24:45 – Conclusion


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Defining Divine Command EthicsNow that we’ve defined Divine Command Ethics, our proponent of the model is going to preemptively address four objections to Divine Command to help in the discussion.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:36 – Objection 1 – Regress Of Why Do What’s Commanded
05:52 – Answer 1 – Looking At The 2 Tables Of The 10 Commandments
13:28 – Objection 2 – Morality Is Arbitrary
15:43 – Answer 2 – Goodness Comes From Purposes Not Commands
19:02 – Objection 3 – Commands Infantilizes Humanity
20:57 – Answer 3 – Adulting For God
24:55 – 5 Features Of Receiving A Divine Command
30:12 – Objection 4 – Pluralism – Which Commander?
31:53 – Answer 4 – Why Does This Only Go One Way? No Neutrality
34:12 – Conclusion


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Defining Divine Command EthicsWelcome to episode 300! Thank you to everyone who has watched/listened and joining our book club with us. We appreciate you all.

This week we introduce defining Divine Command Ethics. While it seems a simple thing to define, one must take into account things like rightness vs. goodness in morality, what are commands in ethics, how proper authority is established, and if moral obligations play a part in any of it.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:26 – 300!!!
03:28 – Real Introduction
04:49 – Defining Divine Command Ethics
05:50 – Right Vs. Good Via Kant
07:31 – Two Points In Defining Moral Right & Wrong With God’s Commands
12:41 – Defining 5 Commands With God’s Commands
14:44 – Moral Obligations Not Moral Rights
17:09 – What Is Right & Proper Authority
21:21 – The Relationship Between Moral Obligation & Divine Command
23:30 – Defining God’s Divine Command
26:10 – Conclusion

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Divine Command & Woke Theology Critique Of Natural LawWe kick off the second critique by looking at the Virtue Ethics critique of Natural Law Ethics. Here, it seems, that our proponent of Virtue Ethics likes the presentation of Natural Law but gives a couple of critiques to help strengthen the position. Come on! I want to see some knock-down, drag-out fighting – for the glory of God of course!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:22 – Virtue Ethics Response To Natural Law Ethics
01:55 – Approves Of No Naturalist Fallacy
05:55 – Approves Of Allowing Different Viewpoints In Under The Natural Law Tent
07:42 – Human Nature Isn’t A Thing In And Of Itself
11:16 – Doesn’t Make Sense To Talk About Human Nature In Pre-Fall & Post-Glory State
17:49 – Natural Law Seems To Be Not Helpful In Explaining Things
20:18 – Conclusion


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Virtue Ethics Critique Of Natural LawWe kick off the second critique by looking at the Virtue Ethics critique of Natural Law Ethics. Here, it seems, that our proponent of Virtue Ethics likes the presentation of Natural Law but gives a couple of critiques to help strengthen the position. Come on! I want to see some knock-down, drag-out fighting – for the glory of God of course!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:22 – Virtue Ethics Response To Natural Law Ethics
01:55 – Approves Of No Naturalist Fallacy
05:55 – Approves Of Allowing Different Viewpoints In Under The Natural Law Tent
07:42 – Human Nature Isn’t A Thing In And Of Itself
11:16 – Doesn’t Make Sense To Talk About Human Nature In Pre-Fall & Post-Glory State
17:49 – Natural Law Seems To Be Not Helpful In Explaining Things
20:18 – Conclusion


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The Chief End Of Man In Natural LawNow that we’ve introduced Natural Law into our possible options for the explanation of Christian ethics we look at what the chief end of man in Natural Law is. If Natural Law is baked into our nature, how should we go about living and what about making actual choices? Is there only one right way. Here’s a question too – would Natural Law be right if God didn’t exist?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:51 – Man’s Natural Relationship Is To Have A Relationship With God
05:13 – Work Is Not A Bad Word In The Natural Law
07:29 – Natural Law – How Now Shall We Live?
12:43 – Moving From Natural Law To Right Living
16:32 – The Abuse Of Natural Law
18:08 – Would Natural Law Be True If God Didn’t Exist?
27:31 – The Purpose Of Natural Law Summarized
28:29 – Conclusion


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The Law Of Nature Embedded In HumanityThis week we introduce the Natural Law ethics perspective. Defining Natural Law helps define what humanity is. Proponents view the law of nature embedded in humanity that defines who we are and what we are to do.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:28 – Defining Natural Law
06:58 – What We Must Have To Survive & Thrive
11:18 – More Than One Way To Live Correctly In Natural Law
14:43 – Human Nature & Human Purposes
17:55 – Sin Nature Is Not Human Nature
19:35 – I Am Not An Animal! I Am A Human Being!
25:36 – What Well-Being Means For A Human
30:48 – Conclusion


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Divine Revelation & Prophetic Ethics Response To Virtue EthicsIf you were convinced by Virtue Ethics presentation in the last section, here’s a Natural Law response to Virtue Ethics. While admitting there is some overlap between the two views, it does seem that the Natural Law view points out some big holes that Virtue Ethics tends to overlook or has not addressed.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:26 – Quick Summary Of Virtue Ethics
03:16 – The Responses
05:26 – Natural Law Response
05:56 – Overlap Between Natural Law & Virtue Ethics
09:12 – The Divergence Between Natural Law & Virtue Ethics
11:36 – David Hume & Aristotle – Virtue Ethicists?
12:51 – What Basis Does One Determine What Is Virtuous?
14:36 – Virtue Ethics Needs More Classification & Foundation
15:47 – In Steps Natural Law
17:55 – Virtue Ethics Allow For Too Much Leeway
21:35 – By What Standings
23:07 – Some Light Commentary
24:50 – Conclusion


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A Natural Law Response To Virtue EthicsIf you were convinced by Virtue Ethics presentation in the last section, here’s a Natural Law response to Virtue Ethics. While admitting there is some overlap between the two views, it does seem that the Natural Law view points out some big holes that Virtue Ethics tends to overlook or has not addressed.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:26 – Quick Summary Of Virtue Ethics
03:16 – The Responses
05:26 – Natural Law Response
05:56 – Overlap Between Natural Law & Virtue Ethics
09:12 – The Divergence Between Natural Law & Virtue Ethics
11:36 – David Hume & Aristotle – Virtue Ethicists?
12:51 – What Basis Does One Determine What Is Virtuous?
14:36 – Virtue Ethics Needs More Classification & Foundation
15:47 – In Steps Natural Law
17:55 – Virtue Ethics Allow For Too Much Leeway
21:35 – By What Standings
23:07 – Some Light Commentary
24:50 – Conclusion


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What Ought The Virtuous Person Do?Last episode we covered what the virtue ethic supporter thought a virtuous person would be like, now we cover what actions a virtuous person would take and how to be a virtuous person according to Virtue Ethics. Here we find out what OUGHT the virtuous person do. We also look at what helps us to be virtuous and what stands in the way.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:46 – Forming Habits Is God Given In Biology
03:46 – Difference Between Humans & Animals In Habit Forming
04:35 – Man’s Call To Develop Good Habits
07:01 – Entropy – The Ultimate Habit Killer
09:11 – Momentum – The Ultimate Entropy Killer
14:15 – What Ought The Good Person Do?
18:18 – A List Of The Oughts To Do
18:29 – Practice, Practice, Practice Makes Perfected People
22:18 – Listen To Tradition – Tradition? Tradition!
24:16 – The Route Of Christian Practice & Tradition Of Virtue
25:32 – The Narrative Story That Teaches Us What We Ought To Do
28:17 – Summary Of Virtue Ethics
32:31 – Conclusion


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The Goal – Be The Good Person Who Surprises No OneThe next two ethic models for our IVP Christian Ethics – 4 Views book in the divine command & prophetic ethics introduction. Here are probably the two most controversial models as they tend to make different types of people angry. While divine command ethics makes non-Christians mad, it is still one of the main popular subscriptions of many Christians as an ethical model. The other, the prophetic ethics model, seems like one from the current day but traces it’s biggest push of popularity in the early 20th century. Join us for a reasonable introduction of both of these models before we delve into each of the four models trying to convince you that they have the correct view.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:59 – Defining Divine Command Ethics
05:00 – Critics In The Euthyphro Dilemma
09:26 – The Modified Version Of The Divine Command Theory
13:13 – The Scriptural Center Of Divine Command Ethics
14:40 – Defining Prophetic Ethics
21:26 – The Scriptural Center Of Prophetic Ethics
24:44 – Conclusion


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Divine Command & Prophetic Ethics IntroductionThe next two ethic models for our IVP Christian Ethics – 4 Views book in the divine command & prophetic ethics introduction. Here are probably the two most controversial models as they tend to make different types of people angry. While divine command ethics makes non-Christians mad, it is still one of the main popular subscriptions of many Christians as an ethical model. The other, the prophetic ethics model, seems like one from the current day but traces it’s biggest push of popularity in the early 20th century. Join us for a reasonable introduction of both of these models before we delve into each of the four models trying to convince you that they have the correct view.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:59 – Defining Divine Command Ethics
05:00 – Critics In The Euthyphro Dilemma
09:26 – The Modified Version Of The Divine Command Theory
13:13 – The Scriptural Center Of Divine Command Ethics
14:40 – Defining Prophetic Ethics
21:26 – The Scriptural Center Of Prophetic Ethics
24:44 – Conclusion

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07:19 – Mitch Stokes Answers The Euthyphro Dilemma


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Virtue Ethics & Natural Law IntroductionWelcome to book number 11! We are going over IVP’s Spectrum Multiview book, Christian Ethics – 4 Views. We introduce the layout of the book and dive right in by giving the virtue ethics & natural law introduction. Covering the definition, short history, and foundation derived in Scripture, we cover the first two of our four views of Christian ethics. Join us, won’t you?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:10 – IVP Spectrum Multiview Book Series Introduction
03:29 – Introducing The Book Christian Ethics – 4 Views
07:57 – The Importance Of The Shoulds & The Oughts In Humanity
12:49 – The Issues Of The Christian Understanding Of Ethics
17:39 – Christian Ethic Systems May Overlap
20:39 – Why These 4 Models Were Chosen
24:28 – Introducing The Definition & History Of Each Christian Ethic Model
25:58 – Defining Virtue Ethics
28:50 – Brief History Of Virtue Ethics
34:41 – The Scriptural Center Of Virtue Ethics
38:29 – Defining Natural Law Ethics
42:45 – Brief Natural Law Ethics
45:37 – The Scriptural Center Of Virtue Ethics
47:04 – Conclusion


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Book 11 AnnouncementBook number 11 for our two heroes asks some important questions and looks at four different views on what it means to be ethical from a Christian viewpoint.

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Spooky Stories Of Church HistoryTroy Fraiser from Revived Thoughts regales us with tales of things that go bump in the night of Church history. History is weird! Coincidences and unexplainable at times and not everything can be dismissed with a wave of a hand as you whistle past the graveyard. Spooky stories of Church history are out there and boy, are they out there. Helpful specters, witch doctors coming to faith, and magic detective Santa Claus. History is weird!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Spurgeon’s Story Of A Preacher Saved By A Specter
05:14 – Don’t Let The Enlightenment Kill Your Belief In The Paranormal
08:21 – The Witch Doctor Who Said Ooo Ee Oo Oo Ah, Your God Is So Big
09:53 – The Sorcerer’s Fail Loved Spell Led Him To Christ
13:07 – The Spooky Story Of Detective Santa Claus Who Solved A Murder!
18:01 – The Magic Santa Robes
19:31 – The Haunted House Of John Wesley
22:10 – The Renowned Of History Are More Than Just One Moment But Are Characters
23:51 – Christians Are Those Who Should Love History The Most
25:10 – Where To See Ourselves In God’s Story Of Church History
29:46 – The Work Of Revived Thoughts
33:15 – Conclusion


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Cave To The Cross On Revived Thoughts Jerome – Psalm 5
David Livingstone – The Holy Spirit
Moses Dow – Fasting For An Evil Day
John Clarke – The Desire For Life
John Gill: Christ the Savior from the Storm
John Newton: He Shakes the Heavens and the Earth
Gregory of Nazianzus: The Shepherd’s Heart
Gregory of Nyssa: The Day Of Lights
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Coincidences In Church HistoryPatrick welcomes back Troy Fraiser from Revived Thoughts! History is weird and there are things that happen that Hollywood writers would be accused of bad storytelling for what actually happens. Troy brings us weird coincidences of Church history that includes a Chinese war, a woman with pants, Vikings, a meteorite, and beans! God as the ultimate Author has some amazing story. Next week – spooky stories of Church history!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:00 – Revived Thoughts Fun
06:29 – Why Care About Church History
18:29 – History Is So Weird, That Fiction Writers Would Call It Unbelievable
21:18 – A Chinese War Because Someone Shared The Gospel With One Person?
25:15 – The Too Coincidental Story of Joan Of Arc
30:05 – Christians In History Trusting God’s Providence – Like Alfred The Great
35:49 – The Coincidence Of The Antioch Meteorite & Battle Victory Crusade
45:52 – Conclusion – Next Week – Spooky Church History Stories


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06:48 – PeriapsisPress.com

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Cave To The Cross On Revived Thoughts Jerome – Psalm 5
David Livingstone – The Holy Spirit
Moses Dow – Fasting For An Evil Day
John Clarke – The Desire For Life
John Gill: Christ the Savior from the Storm
John Newton: He Shakes the Heavens and the Earth
Gregory of Nazianzus: The Shepherd’s Heart
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Satisfying Father Hunger In EducationNow that we’ve identified the problem of fathers not being more involved in education and wagging our fingers enough, education policy expert Jeff Park and Patrick talk about small but meaningful steps fathers can take to take God’s command to be leaders of their families when it comes to what and how their children learn. There are things we can do in satisfying father hunger in education right now. Dads – you are doing great with providing for your family and taking those trips on the weekends. Great job! But here’s we can become super dads and more attractive to our wives.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – What Can Parents Do To Encourage Father’s To Be Involved In Education
11:04 – Dads Provide Their Own Version Of Good Parenting
21:45 – Dads Going To Moms To Explain Have Their Kids Education
30:45 – Fathers Can Find Great Ways To Supplement Their Kids Education
39:48 – Dads – PLEASE Read Books! & Read To Your Kids Too
43:05 – Being Involved Allows You To See Kids Learn Differently
46:13 – Allow Your Sponge Kids To Soak Up Amazing Subjects
47:57 – The Dangers Of The Expanding Horizons Model Of Education
56:02 – What Can Moms Do To Help Dads Get Involved In Their Kids Education
1:00:10 – Dads Need To Teach The Beginning Of Wisdom Is Fear Of The Lord In A Christian Worldview
1:08:07 – Your Child Will Be Educated – Will You Be The One To Do So?
1:11:37 – Moms Can Encourage Dads In Front Of Their Children
1:13:28 – Moms Can Intentionally Encourage Kids To Learn From Dad
1:20:11 – Dads, Be Intentionally Interested In Other Parts Of Your Kids Life
1:23:00 – Jeff Park – Anarchist Bible Study & Alberta Parents Union
1:32:31 – Conclusion


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The Dangers Of Father Absence In EducationIn whatever way you choose to educate your children, if you look around you may notice someone is missing – fathers! Education policy expert Jeff Park discusses the dangers of father absence in their own children’s education. It’s not enough to bring home the bacon, fathers have a biblical mandate to be the primary responsible person in the family for teaching their children. What are the dangers and what does that look like? Homeschool moms – this episode (and the next) is one to share with your husband. Dads – let’s do this!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:35 – Making Good Fathers & Mothers Mad – Uh, I Mean Inspiring Them
05:47 – Is A Lack Of Father Representation In Schooling Hurting Children?
10:16 – The Biblical Mandate For Fathers To Be The Primary Leaders In Educating Their Children
12:07 – The Positive Aspect Of Fathers Having A Different Temperament With Their Children
15:25 – The Positive Aspects Of Having Both Moms & Dads Involved In Child Rearing – Shocker
16:37 – Fathers Cannot Delegate The Responsibility & Authority But Can The Work
19:03 – Fathers Fight For Their Children’s Education
26:03 – Losing Out Key Teaching When We Lose Fathers In Education
32:35 – The Danger Of Fathers Not Adding Different Learning Styles With Different Kids
39:56 – Fathers Not Involved In Education Can Lead To Drop In Their Kids’ Marriages
42:52 – Not A Lack Of Resource But A Loss Of Fathers’ Experiences In Teaching
50:57 – The Big Impact On Kids Of Dads Showing They Care
57:35 – Men Have Brought How Society Is Now With The Idea That Only Women Care About Education
01:06:38 – Fathers – Here Is Your Encouragement & Charge!
01:09:20 – Conclusion


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28:36 – Many statistics cited come from this location
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33:06 – What’s Wrong With Boys at School?
38:06 – Learning to read can reduce reoffending

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One Body, Many GiftsIn our concluding chapter to the book, we look at how the Church is one body & many gifts are given in it. Our authors discuss how the differences in apologetic methods might actually be a good thing to respond to both apologists and those they speak to. With that, what has been your thoughts on the book? Have you learned anything or changed your mind on anything when it comes to a particular method? Let us know in the comments on the video or on social media.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:54 – One Body, Many Gifts – How Apologists Differ
09:45 – One Body, Many Gifts – How People Differ
12:26 – One Body, Many Gifts – How Apologetic Needs Differ
22:42 – One Body, Many Gifts – How Apologetic Problems Differ
24:37 – Conclusion To Faith Has Its Reasons
30:20 – Conclusion


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Integrating Answering Evil, Miracles, & JesusConcluding with our look at the Integrative Approach we look at integrating answering evil, miracles, and Jesus. What have you thought about this approach? Does it allow each approach to shine or does it falter by including non-working relationships?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:18 – Integrative Approach On The Problem Of Evil
15:45 – Integrative Approach On Miracles
21:28 – Integrative Approach On Who Jesus Is
29:176 – Conclusion


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Helping EveryoneNow the Integrative approach will show how it is helping everyone to know God & make Him known. While not it’s own apologetic approach, our authors show how it can help the four other major approaches answer in different ways when it comes to showing Scripture as truth, combating polytheism, and know that God exists.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
04:13 – Integrative Approach Of Scripture As Truth
15:43 – Integrative Approach Of Myth, Truth, & Religion
25:53 – Integrative Approach & The God Who Makes Himself Known
32:44 – Conclusion


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Integrative Apologetics – The Ultimate Approach?We look at the meta-apologetics of the Integrative apologetics approach. While not its own, separate apologetics, our authors believe this type maybe the key to the ultimate approach in apologetics.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:12 – Test Case – Integrative Approach Vs. Post-Modernism
03:33 – Integrative Apologetics & Theology
09:04 – Integrative Apologetics & Philosophy
10:16 – Integrative Apologetics & Science
14:58 – Integrative Apologetics & History
18:59 – Integrative Apologetics & Experience
21:19 – Conclusion


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Apologetics & Human KnowledgeWith the Integrative Approach to apologetics, the goal isn’t to form a new coalition movement of apologetics but to show that Christians can work best when apologetics & human knowledge are used for defending the truth. What do you think?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:14 – The Integrative Approach Isn’t A 5th, New Approach
03:09 – The Perspectival Approach To Defending Truth For Christians
07:29 – Use The Right Method For The Right People
12:51 – The Integrative Approach For The Classical Apologist
17:23 – The Integrative Approach For The Evidential Apologist
22:01 – The Integrative Approach For The Reformed Apologist
23:07 – The Integrative Approach For The Fideist Apologist
25:16 – Conclusion

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Clark, Evans, & Frame Want Us All To Get AlongFinishing up our historical look at the Integrative approach to apologetics we look at David K. Clark, C. Stephan Evans, & John Frame. Their approaches might seem rooted in majorly one camp more than the others but they do encourage all apologists to get along and by combining efforts we may have the best tools available to us to encourage the church and draw people to Jesus Christ.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:47 – David K. Clark – Dialogical Apologetics
04:14 – C. Stephen Evans
05:26 – Evans As A Evidentialist Apologist
06:38 – Evans As A Reformed Apologist
07:47 – Evans As A Fideist Apologist
12:51 – Evans As An Integration Apologist
18:10 – John Frame
19:10 – Frame As A Reformed Apologist
23:18 – Frame As A Classical Apologist
26:48 – Frame As A Evidentialist Apologist
28:09 – Frame As A Fideist Apologist
29:32 – Frame As An Integration Apologist
30:37 – Conclusion

Links:19:08 – Apologetics by John Frame Series


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Augustine, Aquinas, Carnell, & Schaeffer – Oh My!We come to our final apologetic method, the Integrative Approach. Looking at people from history who held to this type of model we see Augustin, Aquinas, Carnell, & Schaeffer – Oh my! What a line up!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:54 – Precursor Integration Apologists
04:36 – Augustine Of Hippo
06:01 – Thomas Aquinas
09:00 – 20th Century Integration Apologists
12:09 – Edward John Carnell
13:13 – Carnell As A Classical Apologist
16:24 – Carnell As A Evidentialist Apologist
18:56 – Carnell As A Reformed Apologist
22:16 – Carnell As A Fideist Apologist
23:09 – Carnell As An Integration Apologist
24:09 – Francis Schaeffer
28:20 – Schaeffer As A Classical Apologist
37:07 – Schaeffer As A Evidentialist Apologist
39:19 – Schaeffer As A Reformed Apologist
43:04 – Schaeffer As A Fideist Apologist
46:46 – Schaeffer As An Integration Apologist
47:41 – Conclusion

Links:26:28 – Nancy Pearcey Interview
26:40 – How Then We Shall Live Movie


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An Introduction To Christian Apologetics by Edward John Carnell

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Fideist Strengths & WeaknessesThe conclusion of our look at Fideism ends with a look at Fideist strengths and weaknesses. Our authors have made a good case for why Fideism is an apologetic method but what do they think it brings to the table and where it falters? Next time – a SURPRISE method!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:38 – 3 Strengths Of Fideism
00:43 – Strength #1 – The Personal Factor Of Christianity
04:21 – Strength #2 – Humble View Of Human Reasoning
05:30 – Strength #3 – Centers Apologetics On Jesus Christ
07:49 – Hardships In Fideism
08:33 – 3 Review Points First
11:07 – 3 Weaknesses Of Fideism
11:57 – Weakness #1 – Undervalues Propositional Knowledge
14:51 – Weakness #2 – Overstate Criticism Of Reason & Knowledge
18:32 – Unnecessarily Critical Of The Bible
20:43 – Conclusion


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Fideist Apologetics SummarizedHere is the Fideist apologetics summarized to show it as an apologetic model and one to be considered. Covering both the meta-apologetics & questions it answers, here’s the overview before the next episode where we see the strengths and weaknesses of the model.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:30 – The Subjectivity Of Faith
03:24 – THe Meta-Apologetics Of Fideism
16:09 – The Apologetic Questions Answered By Fideism
24:15 – Conclusion


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Your Own Personal JesusFor the final three apologetic questions answers, the Fideist point to the fact that one has your own personal Jesus. In that when it comes to the problem of evil or miracles or who Jesus is, it should always lead to answers in the personal nature of God and one in which a personal relationship must be sought.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:04 – The Personal Problem Of Evil
06:43 – Miracles As God Revealing Himself
11:42 – Jesus The Christ Of Faith
16:10 – Conclusion


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Fideist Split Scripture & ChristianityIn looking at how Fideists approach our 6 apologetics questions, we’ll see oddly that Fidiests split Scripture & Christianity as separate from the Word of God & The Christian religion. Also, proof of God comes from knowing God personally.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:40 – Fideist Split Scripture & The Word Of God
08:46 – Barth Is To Blame – Of Course
10:19 – Fideist Split Christianity Vs. Christian Religion
12:35 – Kirgedaard On The Explanatory Power Of Christianity
15:24 – Barth On The Uniqueness Of The Scripture’s Message
18:12 – Fideist Say To Know God Is To Know God Exists
25:10 – Conclusion


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Fideist Faith Is ExperienceThe final three parts of the apologetic approach of rational Fideists. Here we see for Fideist faith is experience and they don’t look fondly at “the Science(TM)” and even less at history as a set of facts. They aren’t anti-science or anti-history, they just believe in proper avenues and spheres not mixing over into the others.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:07 – Fideist Don’t Reject Science But Christianity Goes Beyond “Science(TM)”
07:25 – Fideists Believe Revelation Transcends History
10:15 – How Can You Prove Your Wife?
16:07 – For Fideist Faith Is Experience
18:43 – How To Know You’re Not Cheating On Your Wife
19:51 – Star Trek Reference
20:48 – Conclusion


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Fideist Issues With Theology & PhilosophyDiscussing now the meta-apologetics of Fidesim we focus on three areas of truth, theology, and philosophy. We see that Fideists do engage in apologetics but have big issues with theology and philosophy in the way they are used in the other methods of apologetics. While you might not agree with Fideism outright, or at all, there are some valid arguments to consider in their method.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:29 – Fideist Do Engage In Apologetics
06:14 – Fideist Issue With Traditional Apologetics – Knowing Somebody Not Something
14:39 – Fideist Issue With Traditional Apologetics – Nature Of The Object Of Faith
17:10 – 3 Issues Fideist Point To About Why Traditional Apologetics Fails
24:26 – The Fideist Issues With Systematic Theology
30:06 – Fideists Have An Issue With A God Of Philosophers


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Historical FideismWe now move to the historical Fideism of those who would subscribe to the title of Fidist. Søren Kierkegaard, Karl Barth, and Donald Bloesch are the main proponents of the apologetic method that is more to them than “just believe”.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:38 – Søren Kierkegaard – The Father Of Essentialism
03:17 – Kierkegaard’s Challenge To Discover Authentic Christian Faith
07:21 – 4 Types Of Apologetic Arguments Of A Fideism
07:47 – Argument 1 – No Human Author Argument
13:51 – Argument 2 – Argument Of The Incarnation
15:24 – Argument 3 – Argument From Offense
17:29 – Argument 4 – Argument Of The Book As A Whole
20:47 – Karl Barth – The Father Of Neo-Orthodoxy
24:54 – Barth’s Christian Apologetics Summarized
28:17 – Donald Bloesch – The Father Of Faith Seeking Understanding
31:40 – Conclusion


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Rational FideismWe open our discussion on the 4th apologetic method with not “just believe” but Rational Fideism. This is one where apologists emphasize faith and we go into what value that adds to the conversation. We also discuss three historical proto-Fideists Tertullian, Martin Luther, and Blaise Pascal.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:01 – Can Rational Fideism Be An Apologetic Method?
08:48 – The Historical Roots Of Fideism Apologetics
11:49 – Early Church Proponent Tertullian
15:57 – Not A Rejection Of Logic But Of Syncretism
17:10 – Martin Luther – Reason Falls Short Of Faith
22:20 – Blaise Pascal – More Than A Wager
27:09 – Pascal’s Wager Is More Than Just
32:11 – Conclusion


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Cave To The Cross Apologetics AdBefore we get into our last apologetic method, this week we’re featuring an “ad” for our show from our friends at The Anarchist Bible Study. Check them out, but check us out first.

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Pros & Cons Of Presuppositionalism Reformed ApologeticsWe conclude our section on the third apologetic method by looking at the pros & cons of presuppositionalism Reformed Apologetics. But here’s the real question, are the negatives stated really negatives?

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:24 – Strengths Of Reformed Apologetics
03:11 – Strength #1 – Linking Apologetics & Theology
08:20 – Strength #2 – Focuses On How We Know Things
16:07 – Strength #3 – Strong Rational Challenge To Unbelief
20:19 – Weaknesses Of Reformed Apologetics
20:47 – Clarification – Presuppositionalism Is NOT Just Believe Fideism
23:44 – Weakness #1 – Too Calvinistic
26:34 – Weakness #2 – Underestimates The Power Of Facts
30:11 – Weakness #3 – Too Restrictive Of Apologetics
32:25 – Summary
33:50 – Conclusion


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Summary Of Presuppositional Reformed ApologeticsWe begin our wrap-up of this apologetic method with a summary of presuppositional Reformed Apologetics. We summarize the six meta-apologetics questions that build the method and then we look at the six apologetic questions all methods should have an answer for.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:24 – Summarizing Reformed Apologetics
02:54 – Summarizing Reformed Apologetics Meta-Apologetics
03:30 – Reformed Apologetics On Knowing Christianity Is True
09:08 – Reformed Apologetics On Relationship Between Apologetics & Theology
10:32 – Reformed Apologetics On Should Apologetics Use Philosophy In Apologetics
14:04 – Reformed Apologetics On Should Science Be Used In Apologetics
16:05 – Reformed Apologetics On Can Christianity Be Supported On Historical Inquiry
18:39 – Reformed Apologetics On If Universal Belief Should Be Pointed To As Proof
22:14 – Summarizing Reformed Apologetics Apologetics Positions
22:48 – Reformed Apologetics On Why Believe The Bible
24:04 – Reformed Apologetics On Religious Pluralism
27:27 – Reformed Apologetics On How To Know God Exists
29:44 – Reformed Apologetics On Why There Is Evil
34:22 – Reformed Apologetics On The Trustworthiness Of The Bible
36:30 – Reformed Apologetics On Who Is Jesus
39:17 – Conclusion


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The Centrality Of Scripture For Life’s Big QuestionsWith the final four apologetic questions for the presuppositional Reformed apologetic method we see these apologists keep going back to the centrality of Scripture for life’s big questions. Is there a God? What about evil in the world? Are miracles possible? Who is this Jesus person in history? The Reformed apologetic method is going back to a limitless Source to limit its answers – which doesn’t make everyone quite so happy.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:39 – God As Properly Basic Belief
03:47 – Criteria For Properly Basic Beliefs
07:10 – Defeaters For Basic Beliefs
08:56 – Clark & Van Til On Belief In God
13:16 – The Theological Problem Of Evil
23:01 – Miracles As A Revelation By God
30:20 – Jesus Is The Self-Attesting Christ Of Scripture
32:53 – Conclusion

LINKS:17:22 – The Bahnsen Project
19:36 – What About Free Will? Interview


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Scripture Is The Foundation For EverythingNow we cover the apologetic questions that Reformed apologetics (presuppositionalism) would answer. Here we look at what presuppositionalists say about Scripture and religious pluralism. To Reformed apologists, Scripture is the foundation for everything. So, of course, we don’t make it too far through all six questions.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:09 – Take Every Thought Captive – Science, Logic, And Ethics
06:46 – The Gospel Is Offensive, You Don’t Have To Be Offending
08:58 – Scripture Is Foundational In Reformed Apologetics
11:21 – Clark’s Axion Of Scripture
13:08 – Van Til’s Transcendental Use Of Scripture
16:24 – Plantinga’s Self-Authentication Of Scriptural Foundation
17:24 – Antithesis Between Christian & Non-Christian Religions
21:23 – Religious Pluralism Is Self-Defeating
26:49 – Plantinga’s Critique Of Religious Pluralism
29:44 – Van Til’s Response To Religious Pluralism
32:31 – Summary Of Religious Pluralism To The Reformed Apologist
33:34 – Conclusion


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Biblical Standards For Science, History, & ExperienceFinishing up our chapter on the meta apologetics of Presuppositional Reformed Apologetics we look at their call for biblical standards for science, history, & experience. We see that Reformed apologetics want to push the antithesis between the Christian and the non-Christian. From this push, the Christian is able to engage in both offenseive and defensive apologetics as well as set up the ability to present the Gospel message throughout the conversation.

Timeline:01:51 – Christian Apologetics Against FALSE Science
09:02 – Reject Science Standards That Reject God In Presuppositions
13:44 – Revelation As Interpreting History
24:26 – Reformed Apologetics On The Problem With Experience
31:07 – Conflict In Thinking But Point Of Contact With Unbelievers
35:21 – Conclusion

LINK:20:06 – Jason Lisle On Why Christians Should Use Presuppositional Apologetics Over Other Methods


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Biblical Standards For Theology & PhilosophyWe start out looking at presuppositional Reformed apologetics meta-apologetics by covering probably two of the biggest areas of disagreement with the previously covered methods. For Reformed apologetics, there is the call for biblical standards for theology and philosophy and for them to enact themselves out in the exercise of apologetics.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:34 – Meta-Apologetics Of Reformed Theology Intro
04:17 – Biblical Standards For Defending Truth
09:53 – Reject Deductive & Inductive Arguments As Starting Points
15:30 – The Vindication Of Reformed Theology
19:50 – Presuppositionalists Point Christians Toward Christian Philosophy
26:31 – Conclusion


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The Founders Of Reformed ApologeticsWe complete our journey of the giants of presuppositionalism and the roots by looking at the biggest founders of Reformed apologetics that are known today. Abraham Kyper establishes the possibility of certainty of faith. Herman Dooyeweerd develops transcendental apologetics. Cornelius Van Til cements presuppositionalism. Gordon Clark takes the strand away from VanTil with deductive presuppositionalism. Finally, we get to a living person with Alvin Plantinga and his warrant for Christian belief.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – Abraham Kuyper – Dutch Presuppositionalism & Certainty Of Faith
10:00 – Kuyper On Unbelievers’ Beliefs
13:43 – Herman Dooyeweerd Developed Transcendental Apologetics
19:31 – Cornelius Van Til – Father Of Presuppositionalism
22:31 – Van Til’s Apologetic Approach
24:20 – Gordon Clark – Deductive Presuppositionalism
27:49 – Alvin Plantinga – Showing Christianity Is Ok To Believe In
35:47 – Warranted Christian Belief & Defeating The Defeaters
41:48 – Presuppositionalists Giants Standing On Their Shoulders
45:03 – Conclusion


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Apologists Who Emphasize RevelationAfter covering a couple of apologetic methods that are very similar, are there any that are really that different? Well, entering into the ring is Reformed Apologetics aka Presuppositionalism. Over the next four episodes, we’ll cover this one pretty extensively. First of all, well because we like it and are proponents of it. Second, because of how often misunderstood it is and the need to clarify is still needed. Those covered today are John Calvin, Thomas Reed, and Charles Hodge.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:04 – Clarification On The Book & Video Content
05:24 – Overview Of Reformed Apologetics Presuppositionalism
07:47 – John Calvin’s Apologetic
12:27 – The Noetic Effects Of Sin In Apologetics
15:19 – Humanity Is Without Excuse For Unbelief
20:20 – Theistic Proofs Are Of Marginal Value
22:07 – Two Uses Of Theistic Arguments For Calvin
24:19 – Modern Roots Of The Reformed Apologetics Movement
24:54 – Thomas Reed & Common Sense Reformed Apologetics
33:30 – Charles Hodge & Presupposing Fact Finders
40:45 – Proper Role Of Reason For Hodge
41:56 – Conclusion


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Strengths & Weakness Of EvidentialismWe conclude our look at the second model of apologetics by looking at the strengths & weaknesses of evidentialism. And like good trinitarians, there are three of each. Some of the weaknesses, also, seem to add credibility to one of our upcoming methods. Hmmmm.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:39 – 3 Strengths Of The Evidentialist Model
01:59 – Strength 1 – Probability Is Unavoidable
04:40 – Strength 2 – Appeals To Inquiry Strengths
07:13 – Strength 3 – Emphasizes Facts
09:48 – 3 Weakness Of The Evidentialist Model
10:26 – Weakness 1 – Assumes The Theistic Worldview
14:24 – Weakness 2 – Uses Hidden Presuppositions
17:54 – Weakness 3 – Underestimates The Human Factor
20:32 – Minimizes The Noetic Effect Of Sin
22:17 – What’s Next?
26:10 – Conclusion


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The Meta & The Apologetics Of EvidentialismToday we fly through the meta & the apologetics of evidentialism as it shares a number of qualities with classical apologetics we’ve discussed before. Here we tend to highlight the differences between the two or where the evidentialist tends to focus more of their arguments.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:04 – The Interpretation Of Facts
07:02 – Relationship Between Evidence & Theology
08:39 – Evidentialists & Philosophical Defense
11:49 – Evidentialists Using Science But Not Uncritically
13:04 – Evidentialists Using History Positively
15:20 – Evidentialists Use Rarely Use Experience Claims
16:56 – The 6 Questions All Evidentialists Must Answer
17:37 – Evidentialists On Why Believe The Bible
19:06 – The Evidenitalist Response To Pluralism
19:58 – The Evidentialists Talk About How To Know God Exists
22:31 – Evidentialists Answer To The Problem Of Evil
24:37 – Evidentialists Point To Miracles
26:20 – Evidentialists Point To Who Jesus Is
28:21 – Conclusion


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Evil, Miracles, & Jesus As EvidenceThe final portion of the positive case for evidentialism is on evil, miracles, & Jesus as evidence. Evidentialists have developed 2 theodicies and also a 3 fold test for miracles. They’ve responded to Hume’s critique of miracles. They’ve also developed the minimal facts approach to the Resurrection.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:09 – 2 Explanation To The Problem Of Evil For The Evidentialists
07:41 – Evidentialists On Miracles As Evidence For God
08:39 – The Beckwith 3 Fold Test For Miracles
11:38 – Against Hume’s Critique Of Miracles
14:01 – Who Do Evidentialists Say That Jesus Is?
15:46 – The Minimal Facts Case For The Resurrection
26:13 – Conclusion


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Scripture, Miracles, Prophecies, & Uniqueness Of ChristianityToday, we look at four big evidences that evidentialists look at. Scripture, miracles, prophecies, & uniqueness of Christianity are big factors they point to for people to consider. These areas are just thrown at the wall like jello, evidentialists back up their claims with agreed upon criteria that they claim anyone should be able to look at and be convinced that there is evidence that demands a verdict.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:54 – Evidentialism Differs From Classical Apologetics
06:16 – Evidentialism Offers Scripture As A Source Of Reliable Evidence
08:59 – The 3 Fold Unbiased Test Of Reliable Scripture Testimony
09:35 – The Bibliographic Test
16:01 – The Internal Test
19:04 – The External Test
21:31 – 4 Tests For Fulfilled Prophecy As Reliable Scripture Testimony
24:50 – 3 Areas Of Scripture To Show Fulfilled Prophecies
29:24 – The Evidentialist Responses To Pluralism
33:28 – Christianity Has The Only Evidence For God
34:13 – Evidentialists Want To Bring Evidence To Unbelievers On Neutral Ground
35:30 – Evidentialists Using Scientific Approaches For Evidence
37:14 – Evidentialists Point To God Acting In History With His Church
39:08 – Conclusion


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6 Evidences Of EvidentialistsLike what we did for the classical apologetic method, here are 6 evidences of evidentialists and their outlook. Not every category is where an evidentialist wants to hang his hat but a good number of them are similar to the classical method with a few that show why the distinction between the two types should be made and considered.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:55 – Recap Of 3 Aspects Of Evidentialists
02:17 – Objection – No Agreed Upon Level Of Sufficient Evidence
05:17 – Post-Modern Has No Truth Standard, Christians Have Revelation
09:58 – The Importance Of Theology To The Evidentialist
10:32 – The Bible Is A Historical Object
11:38 – The Bible Makes Evidentialist Arguments
14:24 – Absolute Faith Proof Is Only Through The Holy Spirit
15:31 – A Critical Use Of Philosophy
20:09 – The Embrace OF Science By Evidentialists
22:26 – The Embrace Of History By Evidentialists
27:54 – Experience Plays A Role But Per Person
31:09 – Conclusion


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Faith Founded On FactWhat distinguishes classical apologists from evidentialists is that the latter wants to show faith founded on facts. There are three main distinctions between the two camps that show just how different they are and where they’re starting from – and going towards.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:59 – Using Facts To Show The Truth Of Christianity
03:26 – Definitions Of Evidentialism
07:33 – Induction – The Priority Of Facts Over Arguments
10:16 – Probability – Conclusions Are Probable Rather Than Certainty
14:44 – Certainty Comes Through Faith
16:29 – Neutrality – Standards Acceptable To Non-Christians
21:18 – Conclusion


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Sci-Fi, Theology, & Indies 2023Returning for the final set of book reviews 2023 continues the sci-fi, theology, & indies books that I liked, didn’t like, and the really bad ones to stay away from. And I wanted to tell you about them.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – 8 Great Smarts & How Am I Smart? by Kathy Koch
05:11 – There Will Be Time by Poul Anderson
09:18 – Reading With Purpose by Nancy Wilson
12:07 – Dan the Destructor (Barbarians Of The Storm – Book 1) by Rob Rimes
16:16 – The Shadow of the Torturer (The Book of the New Sun #1) by Gene Wolfe
20:51 – The Green Ember by S. D. Smith
26:26 – On Getting Out of Bed – The Burden and Gift of Living by Alan Noble
29:22 – Apologetics – A Justification of Christian Belief by John M. Frame
32:14 – Slewfoot by Brom
35:29 – Earth Abides by George R. Stewart
28:46 – We Are Legion (We Are Bob – Bobiverse #1) by Dennis E. Taylor
41:12 – The Long Moonlight by RazörFist
43:48 – A Change Of Plans by Dennis E. Taylor
44:23 – Deeper: Real Change for Real Sinners by Dane Ortlund
46:33 – For We Are Many (Bobiverse #2) by Dennis E. Taylor
48:21 – The Lord Bless You and Keep You – The Promise of the Gospel in the Aaronic Blessing by Michael Glodo
50:20 – Robopocalypse by Daniel H. Wilson
54:31 – Signs and Secrets of the Messiah – A Fresh Look at the Miracles of Jesus by Jason Sobel
56:17 – Death Date by B. Y. Simpson
1:00:16 – Hydra’s Wake by Daniel Jones
01:01:31 – Roadkill by Dennis E. Taylor
01:05:13 – The Fear of Moncroix by Bryan Asher
01:06:55 – Five Lies of Our Anti-Christian Age by Rosaria Butterfield
01:09:55 – The Hand of God by Yuval Kordov
01:12:07 – A Knight’s Quest For The Holy Grail by C. S. Johnson
01:12:56 – Faraway and Forever by Nancy Joie Wilkie
01:16:45 – The Mark of A Christian by Francis Shaeffer
01:19:07 – A Meeting With Medusa by Arthur C. Clarke
01:20:59 – Art And The Bible by Francis Shaeffer
01:24:08 – Personal Finance for Teens Simplified by J. Lykins
01:25:12 – Periapsis Christmas by Katie Roome
01:28:59 – Periapsis Christmas 2 by Katie Roome
01:32:45 – Conclusion

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Theology, Sci-Fi, & Indies 2023Here are the book reviews 2023 that I (Patrick) read and reviewed. Running the whole genre gauntlet for theology, sci-fi, & indies; 2023 was a good reading year. Here are my thoughts. Completely understandable if you skip this episode and the next one. Why 19 books in this episode? Because I was called in from playing for dinner and needed to wash up.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
02:37 – The Revenant And The Tomb by Herman P. Hunter
06:03 – The Star Dwellers by James Blish
11:55 – Penance by Paula Richey
16:18 – The Biggest Story by Kevin DeYoung
19:56 – The Hobbit by J.R.R. Tolkien
25:49 – The White Mountains (The Tripods #1) by John Christopher
30:53 – The Lost Art Of Dying by L.S. Dugdale
36:13 – The Thing In The Attic by James Blish
37:35 – The City Of Gold And Lead (The Tripods #2) by John Christopher
40:54 – Did Jesus Rise From The Dead? by William Lane Craig
41:51 – Did The Resurrection Happen…Really? by Josh McDowell & Dave Sterrett
42:38 – Classical Me, Classical Thee by Rebekah Merkle
44:08 – The Threshold – Leading In The Age Of AI by Nick Chatrath
46:04 – Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, & Ethical Approach by Andreas Kostenberger & Gregory Goswell
48:13 – Social Conservatism For The Common Good by Andrew T. Walker
52:43 – The Wizard’s Stone by Herman P. Hunter
56:53 – Ilium by Dan Simmons
58:49 – The Garden, The Curtain, And The Cross by Carl Laferton
01:00:25 – Personality & Worldview by J. H. Bavinck
01:03:08 – Continued Next Week

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Scott Christensen Interview ReduxIn this redux episode, we talked with Scott Christensen and interviewed him about the book we spent almost a year on, What About Evil?

This book does an excellent job of laying out the issue, giving the definitions, the different answers, the issues with other theories, and the answer Christensen has is found on page 8 & 9!

This was an amazing book and has been big impact on me (Patrick) in my walk since reading it. It was good to talk to Scott again.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:33 – A Quick Overview Of What About Evil
03:17 – What Is A Theodicy?
06:52 – Issues With The Free Will Defense
11:53 – Free Will Of Man Limits God
13:59 – The Trinity Speaks Of Love Without Force Or Libertarian Free Will
16:27 – Being Fair With The Other Side’s Arguments
20:05 – Scriptural Case Against Libertarian Free Will
24:36 – God’s Foreknowledge Issue If Libertarian Free Will Is True
28:11 – The Best Of All Possible Worlds Issue
33:14 – The Greater-Glory Theodicy
36:37 – God As The Meta-Storyteller
46:47 – The Purpose For God Allowing Evil
523:20 – Why Did Evil Happen To Me?
01:04:55 – Why Did Evil Happen To Jesus?
01:06:35 – A Dangerous Book & Maybe More
01:10:31 – Conclusion

LINKS:01:00 – Ep. 17 – Scott Christensen Interview – What About Free Will?

01:55 – A Quick Review Of “What About Evil?” By Scott Christensen

47:06 – Anarchist Bible Study Guest Appearance

59:29 – Scott Christensen’s Sermon on 2 Corinthians 4:16-18

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Lydia McGrew Interview ReduxIn this redux episode, we talked with Lydia McGrew (@LydiaMcGrewChannel) and interviewed her about two of her books. One dealt with proof of the Gospel accounts using undesigned coincidences and the other about how Gospels are actually historical accounts and not literary devices that many in “the academy” are going towards.

In our book Faith Has Its Reasons we talked about Lydia McGrew and William Paley that she was inspired to do research into his work. Here are some outcomes of the evidentialist method of apologetics.

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Showing Christianity Is Probably TrueIn more recent times, there have been continued advancements by evidentialists in showing Christianity is probably true. People like Clark Pinnock, John Warwick Montgomery, and Richard Swinburne have continued the traditions of the evidentialists by engaging in apologetics who emphasize fact.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Clark H. Pinnock – History Of The Bible & The Resurrection
04:20 – John Warwick Montgomery – Evidentialist Apologetics As Evangelism
06:02 – Montgomery’s 4 Fold Test Of Prejury Of The Biblical Text
09:46 – The New Testament Witnesses Pass The Prejury Test
12:31 – Montgomery’s Hinge Argument – Jesus’ Missing Body
17:30 – Jesus’ Missing Body Also Establishes The Existence Of God
19:21 – Richard Swinburne – God Is The Best Explanation
25:22 – Summary
28:14 – Conclusion


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The Rise Of The EvidentialistsOur next apologetic method was both a step away from classical apologetics and a response to deism. During the modern period, the rise of the evidentialists came forth. Led by men like Joseph Butler and William Paley, they used apologetics who empasize facts and the use of empiricism.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:29 – The Evidentialist Approach Approaches
06:58 – A Response To Deism
09:52 – Joseph Butler’s Analogy Of Religion
10:43 – Willam Paley’s Natural Theology
12:19 – Theologians Using Lockean Empiricism
14:49 – Sherlock Taking The Resurrection To Trial
16:26 – Simon Greenleaf’s Eyewitnesses
17:05 – Joseph Butler’s Radically Shifting Apologetics
21:54 – 4 Points About Butler’s Method
25:04 – Conclusion

LINKS:12:12 – Lydia McGrew Interview


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Weaknesses Of Classical ApologeticsWe close out our look at the classical method by looking at the weaknesses of classical apologetics. We are not drumming anyone out of the faith or decrying heretics here. We’re taking a reasoned and logical approach to the method and that’s exactly how classical apologists would want it.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:47 – Classical Apologetics Isn’t Infallible
02:10 – Some False Criticisms Of Classical Apologetics
02:33 – One Doesn’t Need Rational Arguments For Proper Faith To Be Held
04:03 – Classical Apologetics Does Not Substitute Faith For Reason
07:18 – Three Concerns With Classical Approach
07:40 – Classical Apologetics Overestimate Reason Criteria For Truth
08:22 – Logic Is Universally Insufficient For Truth
13:12 – No Universal Criteria For Truth Without Assuming A Worldview
14:24 – Assumes Human Reasoning Can Get To God
16:17 – Are Classical Arguments Sound
18:21 – Classical Arguments Are Difficult For People To Understand
18:53 – Classical Arguments Don’t Lead Directly To The Biblical God
20:21 – Classical Approach Doesn’t Talk About The Personal Factors Of Belief
22:40 – Not All Classical Apologists Hold All Criticism Against Them
23:44 – Further Classical Apologetic Criticism
26:30 – Not All Is Lost For Classical Apologetics
27:06 – Claiming Neutrality For Classical Apologists Is Impossible
28:13 – Classical Apologetic Claims Are Not All Agreed To
28:44 – Classical Apologetics Tend To Overlook The Non-Rational Side Of Arguments
28:57 – A Response To Classical Apologetics For Some Is Evidentialism
30:38 – Conclusion


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The Summary Of Classical ApologeticsThe penultimate episode in which your heroes present the summary of classical apologetics. We take a quick look at the 6 meta-apologetic questions and the 6 apologetic questions of the classical approach. Finally, we look at the strengths of the classical approach. Next week – the negatives!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
04:08 – Overview Of The 6 Meta-Apologetic Questions Of Classical Apologetics
05:03 – Epistemology Of Christianity For C.A.
06:24 – Theology And Apologetics Relationship For C.A.
08:16 – Science To Defend Christianity For C.A.
10:37 – History To Support Christianity For C.A.
12:35 – Experience Informs Christian Truth For C.A.
15:35 – Overview Of The 6 Apologetic Questions Of Classical Apologetics
16:45 – Why Should The Bible Be Believed For C.A.
18:21 – Do All Roads Lead To God For C.A.
19:42 – How Do We Know God Exists For C.A.
21:40 – Why Does Evil Exist For C.A.
24:51 – Miracles For C.A.
28:08 – Jesus For C.A.
30:03 – The Strengths Of Classical Apologetics
30:43 – Affirms The Universal Nature Of Reason
37:45 – Affirms Worldview Roles Are Unavoidable
40:53 – Common Ground With Non-Christians
43:00 – Conclusion

LINKS:15:55 – Did Jesus say before the cock crows or before the cock crows twice?


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The Universe, Evil, Miracles, & Jesus For Classical ApologistsWe conclude the classical apologetic answers with looking at the universe,evil, miracles, & Jesus for classical apologists. We cover the mighty Kalam Argument and the main approach of using free will to explain evil. Then the fact that miracles are not violations of reality is pushed for God entering into His creation. Finally, Jesus is presented as either liar, lunatic, or Lord and we all must decide which one He is.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:14 – The Cosmological Argument For God For The Classical Approach
04:14 – The Kalam Argument
10:02 – Objections To The Kalam – And Their Answers
13:53 – The Classical Approach To Answering The Problem Of Evil Stated
17:06 – The Classical Approach To Answering The Problem Of Evil Answered
20:49 – The Classical Approach To Miracles
33:28 – The Classical Approach To Jesus
41:32 – Conclusion


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The Rationality Of The Christian WorldviewFor the classical apologist, reason is king. It’s available to everyone and is God-given in the universe. As such the rationality of the Christian worldview for the apologist is the path to go down when it comes to the use of Scripture, disproving other worldviews, and arguing for the moral case for God’s existence.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:25 – The Classical Approach To Show Christianity As Reasonable
05:08 – Scripture As Conclusion – The Bible For Classical Apologists
06:55 – Using God-Given Reason To Test The Scriptures
09:10 – Disproving Other Worldviews – One At A Time
11:17 – How Classical Apologists Classify Other Worldviews
13:39 – Rationally Incoherent Worldviews
15:13 – Pantheism Worldview Critique Example
19:20 – Proving God’s Existence Through The Classical Approach
21:08 – The Moral Argument For God For The Classical Approach
25:58 – The Ontological Argument For God For The Classical Approach
30:22 – Conclusion


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Classical On Science, History, & ExperienceWe finish up looking at what Classical Apologists say concerning the last three sections of the meta-analysis. Classical on science, history, & experience bring their focus on reason to bear when it comes to the discussion of how these three areas fit into their Christian philosophy.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Relationship Between Apologetics & Science To The Classical Apologist
05:27 – 4 Points On J.P. Moreland’s Work On Balancing Science & Christianity
16:10 – Relationship Between Apologetics & History To The Classical Apologist
24:16 – Relationship Between Apologetics & Experience To The Classical Apologist
32:19 – Conclusion


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Making Faith ReasonableWe’ve looked at the history and who has represented Classical Apologetics, we look at the six main apologetic questions all Christian apologetics have to answer. Here, the classical approach looks at the goal of making faith reasonable. How do they do so? By showing there is no conflict between faith and reason and that logic and philosophy aid them in showing Christianity to be true.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:09 – Classical Apologetics Attempts To Show Christianity Is Reasonable
06:44 – Showing There’s No Conflict Between Faith & Reason
09:45 – Logic As A Negative Test For Truth
16:12 – Logic Offers Proof But Doesn’t Persuade
18:54 – Logic Is The Foundation Of Theology
23:10 – Philosophy Is Necessary To Do Apologetics
26:43 – Conclusion


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Patrick and Tony were invited onto Jeremiah Campana’s podcast Anatomy Of The Church And State. We discussed many different aspects of apologetics and the role it has in the believer’s lives. This was a great way to talk about the summation of many of the books we’ve discussed on our show. It was also a fun challenge to get some rapid-fire questions on a number of different questions any believer may face these days.

So for this week’s episode, we want to highlight Jeremiah’s show in this interview and hope you watch it.

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Why are Christian apologetics important? Apologetics provides a framework for Christians to understand and defend their faith in a world that is increasingly hostile to Christianity. Apologetics can also help Christians to better understand their own faith and to articulate it more clearly to others. Join me and the hosts of the Cave To The Cross Podcast as we discuss!

Tony Givhan has graduate degrees from Western Michigan University and Grand Rapids Theology Seminary. He earned his PhD in Philosophy of Science from Michigan State University. He has been married for 40 years and has five adult children. Patrick has a Bachelor of Science from Western Michigan University where he minored in Philosophy. They’ve been friends since 2005 and are the hosts of Cave To The Cross Apologetics: A podcast where they break down and discuss books and articles on philosophy, theology, and similar subjects.

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Topic Timeline1:52 Tony’s Faith journey

5:03 Patrick’s Faith journey

9:40 Beginnings of Cave to the Cross

12:19 More about the podcast

13:17 Types of Apologetics

15:12 Start with the Gospel

16:20 Preferred Apologetic approach?

17:50 Presuppositional Apologetics

21:10 Reality, logic, ethics

23:31 Base level Apologetics

24:35 Apologetics is important for believers

25:37 Our worldview is superior

26:21 I Peter 3:15

28:01 Doubting Thomas

29:05 Did Lincoln exist?

31:30 Balancing Christian life and Apologetics

33:35 Two types of Faith

35:34 Be a part of the local church

36:33 Finding a good church

39:37 Apologetics and Politics

41:27 Made in His image

42:40 Guard rails

43:38 Imposing and contrasting worldviews

46:08 Christ is Lord is foundational level

48:03 Trends and the New Atheists

50:05 Dawkins’ remarks

51:15 Faith is a mental disease?

53:36 By what standard?

54:38 Today’s Apologetics in today’s culture

58:14 Church history books hold many answers

59:55 Mercy

1:03:10 Why does God allow evil?

1:04:27 Christianity is a white man’s religion

1:07:00 Bible can’t be reliable because written by man

1:09:45 If God is loving, why did he kill people?

1:13:38 Christianity promotes bigotry and homophobia

1:15:40 Gospel promotes slavery

1:17:35 Christians shouldn’t be in politics

1:20:27 Government is ordained by God

1:21:01 Christians are hypocrites

1:22:12 Guests’ closing remarks

1:24:22 Closing prayer

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Champions Of The Classical ApproachWe finish up our chapter looking at the philosophers of the Classical method of apologetics by looking at two of the champions of the classical approach. Norman Geilser and William Lane Craig are some of the biggest proponents of the classical method (Peter Kreeft sneaks in there too).

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Norman Geilser – The Model Classical Apologist
02:27 – 4 Division In Geilser’s Classical Approach
03:02 – Norman Geilser On Religious Experience Evidence
04:08 – Norman Geilser On Philosophical Proofs
04:37 – Norman Geilser On Religious Language
06:58 – Norman Geilser On The Problem Of Evil
08:53 – 3 Ways Norman Geisler Tests Competing Truth Claims
09:57 – Looking At 7 Different Truth Methods
11:16 – Norman Geilser’s Positive Proof For Christianity
12:30 – Peter Kreeft – Neutral Ground Classical Apologist
13:27 – William Lane Craig – Popular Classical Apologist
17:03 – Knowing Vs. Showing Christianity To Be True
19:58 – WLC Kalam Cosmological Argument For God
21:42 – WLC Historial Argument For Christianity
26:31 – Conclusion
30:02 – Coming Up


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History Of Classical ApologeticsNow we really kick off the book by looking at our first of four main apologetic methods – classical apologetics. Our authors define their terms (always a welcome) and provide the history of classical apologetics. We then cover two of the four examples of classical apologists – saving the biggest for next week.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:11 – Defining Classical Apologetics
05:29 – The Historical Roots Of Classical Apologetics
06:02 – Classical Apologetics During The NT & Early Church
08:26 – Classical Apologetics During The Middle Ages
10:41 – Classical Apologetics During The Reformation
13:00 – Classical Apologetics During The 19th Century
13:28 – 4 Main Proponents Of Classical Apologetics
13:44 – B.B. Warfield The Supernatural Classical Apologist
19:56 – C.S. Lewis The General Classical Apologist
23:49 – To Be Continued Next Week


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6 Meta Questions Of ApologeticsFinishing up the overview of our four apologetic methods that will be covered in the book we address how the book will organize, codify, and systematize each method. That’s just fancy talk for how the book will show the different aspects of the apologetics methods.

In this episode, we cover the 6 meta questions of apologetics that any good method would need to cover. There are also 6 common objections that each apologetic method should answer as well. With these two sections in mind, along with providing an overview and giving examples of those who have historically held these methods, this provides a great evaluation tool for each of the four methods.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – Tools To Evaluate The Different Apologetic Methods
01:26 – 6 Metaapologetic Questions To Evaluate Apologetic Methods
02:31 – What Basis Do We Argue That Christianity Is The Truth
05:50 – What Is The Relationship Between Apologetics And Theology
07:14 – Should Apologetics Engage In A Philosophical Defense Of The Faith
09:55 – Can Science Be Used To Defend The Christian Faith
10:39 – Can History Be Used To Defend The Christian Faith
12:06 – How Is Christian Truth Related To Experience
13:46 – Upcoming Layout Of The Book Using These 6 Questions
14:34 – 6 Objections Each Apologetic Method Must Answer
18:11 – Conclusion


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4 Types Of Apologetic MethodsAs we move into the second portion of our book we look at the 4 types of apologetic methods that will be evaluated in the rest of the book. Here we introduce briefly the four types and some of the people who held to the views that our authors believe encapsulates the best representations of them.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
03:54 – The Upcoming Format
05:35 – The 4 Types Of Apologetics
09:36 – Classical Apologetics – Highlighting Logic
11:48 – Famous Classical Apologists
14:04 – Evidentialism Apologetics – Highlighting Evidence
16:43 – Famous Evidentalism Apologists
17:36 – Reformed Apologetics – Highlighting Grounding In Christianity
23:53 – Famous Reformed Apologists
24:54 – Fideism Apologetics – Highlighting Personal Belief

LINKS:12:51 – Revived Thoughts Thomas Aquinas


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The Next 1,000 Years Of Christian ApologeticsWell after the first 1,000 years of Christian apologetics, it also makes sense that we cover the next 1,000 years. Here we see more responses taking place and the inclusion of philosophy and codification and systematizing of theology. As a result, more apologetics occurs and more ways to systematize apologetics is done.

While this is a brief overview, we would encourage first-hand reading of many of these names and not just the ones listed here and not just during this second millennium of Christian apologetics. Ad fontes then continue!

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:15 – The Reformation Apologetics
03:53 – Martin Luther’s Apologetics
06:57 – John Calvin’s Apologetics
10:53 – Skepticism Apologetics
11:53 – Blaise Pascal’s Apologetics
13:53 – Joseph Butler’s Apologetics
18:10 – The Enlightenment Apologetics
19:22 – Emmanuel Kant’s Apologetics
20:17 – William Paley’s Apologetics
21:21 – Thomas Reed’s Apologetics
22:13 – Thomas Hodge & B.B Warfield’s Apologetics
24:04 – James Orr & Abraham Kuyper’s Apologetics
25:39 – Cornelius Van Til’s Apologetics
30:47 – C.S. Lewis’ Apologetics
33:43 – Responding To Van Til Apologetics
34:08 – Gordon H. Clark, Edward John Carnell, & Stewart Hackett’s Apologetics
36:35 – William Lane Craig’s Apologetics
37:59 – John Montgomery Ward’s Apologetics
38:47 – Norman Giesler’s Apologetics
40:04 – Francis Schaeffer’s Apologetics
42:10 – Alvin Plantiga’s Apologetics
46:25 – What’s Coming Up Next
48:46 – Conclusion

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The First 1,000 Years Of Christian Apologetics We went through the first 100 years of Christian Apologetics starting in year 0, now we cover the first 1,000 years of Christian apologetics. History and especially Church History is important because to figure out how we are here we have to see the road that led us [...]

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The Scriptural Mandate For Apologetics As Bible believers, we want to do all the things The Bible says we are to do so as to honor God in the best way we can. So when it comes to apologetics, we’d really like a scriptural mandate for apologetics. Well, not only do we get ones explicitly [...]

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Defining Apologetics We kick off our discussion of our next book Faith Has Its Reasons by Kenneth Boa & Robert M. Bowman Jr. with one of our favorite topics – definitions. In defining apologetics we focus on the the four main approaches the book covers and how they’ll be covered. By starting first with definitions [...]

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Sanctifying The Church & The Family Pastor Josh from The Anarchist Bible Study podcast shines some bright lights in places in the Church where we might be missing – or not wanting to look. How can we be actively sanctifying the Church and the family? As a youth pastor as well, Josh gives his State [...]

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The State Of The Church Address 2023 Pastor Josh aka Iowancap from The Anarchist Bible Study joins the program to give his State Of The Church Address 2023. In it, we build on the back of Ligonier’s 2022 State of Theology. Josh talks about why definitions in the church matter and what it means when [...]

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Book 10 Announcement Today’s episode is the announcement of our 10th book we’ll be going over. You can pick it up in the links below and join our book club or just drop in and join the discussion each Monday. After the episode on Monday, the episode is broken down into short, topical clips. BOOK [...]

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The Apologetics Of The Noetic Effects We close Frame’s book for the last time with the conclusion of one of the appendices – a look at the critique Ligonier has about Van Til and his apologetics. We look at the similarities and differences the apologetics of the noetic effects of sin has for each model. [...]

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Ligonier Vs. Van Til It’s the fight of the century! The boys from Florida against the Dutch Bomber himself! It is Ligonier Vs. Van Til with special guest referee John Frame! Frame responds to the need for defining terms at the start of this debate and shows that conflatating “start with” allows one to begin [...]

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Atheism And Idolatry John Frame closes his apologetics as offense chapter by looking at the two avenues of non-Christian belief – atheism and idolatry. Both parts are interconnected and share common traits. However, atheism tends to remove objective values and relies on the need for evolution to be true. Frame provides some strategies in answering [...]

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The Irrationalist Rationalist Blue 42! Blue 42! Plato! Set – Hike! John Frame takes apologetics on the offense in this chapter leading up to the end of the book. Many parts of this chapter refer back to previous chapters and we likewise suggest checking out our previous episodes in the series. Here, Frame wants us [...]

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John Frame’s Explanation For Evil Now we come to John Frame’s explanation for evil. He wants to derive the answer not from a faceless god but from the God of The Bible. He doesn’t want just a philosophical answer for evil but one derived from The Bible. Frame wants to not just look at an [...]

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No Obligation To Answer For Evil We see John Frame call again for us to turn to Scripture to see what he believes is The Bible’s explanation for the problem of evil. Frame surveys many parts of Scripture, both OT & NT, and finds that in the number of places where man asks God why [...]

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Lacking Explanations For Evil Rounding out this chapter, Frame covers six different theodicies he says are lacking explanations for evil. Frame critiques process theologians, open theists, and even some in his Reformed camp. Timeline: 00:00 – Introduction 01:20 – Character Building Theodicy Issues 05:18 – Stable Environment Theodicy Issues 07:28 – Divine Weakness Theodicy Issues [...]

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Free Will To Do Evil? One of the most subscribed to answers to theodicy is that as humans we have free will to do evil. It is all our fault and God has nothing to do with it but can work with us in our fallen state to bring about His will. And that’s all [...]

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What The Bible Does Not Say About Evil While this may seem like familiar territory to friends of the show, it will be interesting to see the similarities and differences presented by John Frame on the problem of evil. Starting out at looking at what The Bible say or more so, does not say about [...]

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The Bible’s Rationale For The GospelContinuing With John Frame’s proof of the Gospel (and therefore Scripture) we turn now to The Bible’s rationale for the Gospel. Here we see that there is a rational basis for belief in the trust that Christians have and then we look at particular claims such as fulfilled prophecy and miracles. Frame critiques the critiques of David Hume on miracles. Finally, we look at the outcomes of miracles and show that even when one is presented, belief doesn’t always follow from it.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:58 – Faith In A Rational Basis
03:58 – Argument From Prophecy
08:30 – Jesus Fulfills The OT Messiah Claims
11:13 – Jesus Did Miracles & Resurrected
16:27 – Three Issues To Look At With Miracles
17:36 – Are Miracles Possible Or Probable?
20:56 – Christianity Solves For The Problem Of Induction
22:08 – Is There Sufficient Evidence For Miracles?
24:47 – Critiquing Hume’s Critique
33:42 – Epistemological Critique Of Hume
34:53 – Miracles Persuade – But Sometimes They Don’t
38:38 – The Gospel Is Credible
40:47 – Conclusion


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The Bible’s Rationale For ItselfWe now move onto an important apologetic concept for John Frame and that is what The Bible’s rationale for itself is. A defense of the Gospel – the Good News of salvation in Jesus Christ resides in the defense of the Scriptures.

Frame’s take is presuppositional in nature and also critical of so-called Bible scholars involved in biblical criticism. Patrick also provides some scathing critique of a film from 2010 that kinda falls in line of what the great philosopher is talking about – we hope.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:38 – Proving The Gospel – A Defense Of The Scriptures
04:08 – Scriptures’ Doctrine On Scripture Itself
05:55 – Prejudice Against Words
09:58 – The Role Of The Holy Spirit – A Presupposition
14:53 – Biblical Criticism – The Good & The Bad
19:30 – The Age Of Enlightenment Left Us In The Dark
22:54 – Scholars Assume The Bible Must Be Studied From Non-Biblical Assumptions
24:03 – A Small Rant By Patrick On The Book Of Eli
25:24 – A Supernatural Book
26:33 – The Academy Can’t Allow God In
28:43 – Is Scripture Teaching About Itself Credible?
31:16 – God Is Self-Attesting & So Is Scripture
34:09 – Jesus Taught The Same Thing
35:42 – Conclusion


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Cosmological And Ontological ArgumentsCosmological And Ontological Arguments are classic theistic arguments. They are some of the most well-known and oldest in the philosophy field. Frame’s approach puts a presuppositional spin to both kinds that bolsters each point better by providing a foundation for the argument. Here, we cover the impossibility of uncaused causes in the universe. We also talk about the nature of God and the necessity of existence. We also sneak a little Austrian Economics in with Praxeology.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:37 – The Universe Is Finite, Therefore God Exists
03:50 – The Praxiology Of The Universe
04:55 – How Do You Rationally Prove An Uncaused Cause?
08:19 – The Irrationality Of Rationally Talking About An Uncaused Cause
10:03 – Everything Happens For A Reason – Even The Start Of The Universe
14:17 – If God Can Be The Endless 1st Cause, Why Can’t The Universe Be?
17:12 – The Cosmological Argument Is Ultimately Epistemological In Nature
17:53 – God Has All Perfect Qualities, Therefore God Exists
19:16 – What About A Perfect Island?
21:23 – Jumping From Concept To Reality?
24:03 – Are We Adding Existence Unnecessarily?
27:04 – Is Existence Actually A Perfect Quality?
30:44 – Conclusion


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Knowledge And DesignMoving from the moral argument for God to one of knowledge and design takes us further into the traditional theistic arguments. Here, Frame presents the epistemological nature of a source that is personal and allows us to know things. The alternative explanation does not give us any reason to justify knowledge or understand why we should think the world outside of our mind is how the world actually is. From there an actual teleological argument is presented which has taken a backseat in popularity recently because of objections to it. However, Frame says that those objections are actually quite helpful and helps Christians further prove the point that a personal Creator made everything – and we can know it.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:50 – The Trouble With Figuring Out How We Can Know Things
05:03 – The Mind And The Universe Must Mirror Each Other
08:06 – The Impersonal Vs. Personal Theory Of Knowledge
14:29 – The Ethical Implications Of Epistemology
15:17 – Metaphysical Arguments For God
16:29 – The Teleological Argument For God
20:59 – Objections To Telelogical Are Actually Productive
24:54 – Conclusion


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Absolute Moral AuthorityLast week we looked at issues when it comes to thinking moral authority is arbitrary or just happens to be. This week, Frame looks at absolute moral authority and where it comes from. Probably no surprise that God is going to be the source but do we run into circular issues by saying something is good because God decreed it and God is good because He’s God? Frame tackles those claims.

Timeline:Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
01:59 – Moral Authority
08:57 – Where Does Absolute Moral Authority Come From?
14:30 – How Is God’s Authority The Best Standard?
22:31 – Is God’s Goodness Being Good Circular?
26:38 – Not Viciously Circular
29:27 – Conclusion

LINKS:29:11 – Nancy Pearcey Finding Truth Playlist


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The Moral Argument For TheismWe jump back into John Frame’s Apologetics book by digging into what Frames to be valuable theistic arguments – even for presuppositionalists. After laying the foundation and critiquing agnosticism, Frame provides the start of what he considers one of the best proofs for God – the moral argument for theism.

Timeline:Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
02:51 – Traditional Theistic Arguments As A Presuppositionalist
06:04 – Moral Proof For God With Presuppositional Flavoring
07:31 – Atheists-Agnostics Don’t Exist
13:03 – Moral Values Exist Therefore God Exists
14:35 – Moral Values More Than Just Experiences
14:55 – Just Because Something Is The Case Doesn’t Mean It Ought To Be The Case
18:01 – Moral Values More Than Just Subjective Feelings
22:11 – Moral Values More Than Just Cultural Values
24:24 – Moral Values Have An Objective Standard
33:32 – Conclusion

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Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical ApproachWe are privileged to welcome back Dr. Andreas Köstenberger and welcome Dr. Gregory Goswell as we discuss their newest book from Crossway Publishing, Biblical Theology – A Canonical, Thematic, and Ethical Approach.

We talk with the good doctors about what went into the book and how the reader can best use the work. We talk about the differences (and helpfulness) between biblical theology and systematic theology. We talk about the missing aspect of ethics in many works of biblical theology (or theology in general) and even how biblical theology can help in our understanding and formation of presuppositions.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:25 – A Quick Review
02:53 – The Division Of Labor & Working Together
06:13 – Biblical Theology Vs. Systematic Theology Or Partnership?
10:31 – How Biblical Theology Helps Our Presuppositions
15:40 – You Too Can Do Biblical Theology
17:30 – Ethics In Focus In Biblical Theology
27:07 – Theologians Share Surprises In Biblical Theology
31:28 – How To Use The Biblical Theology Book
36:10 – Other Points About The Book
38:57 – Conclusion

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Books mentioned in this episode:Truth In A Culture Of Doubt – Engaging Skeptical Challenges to the Bibleby Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw

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The Historic Reliability Of The ResurrectionWe have a special episode coming up and yesterday was Easter so it makes sense to get this episode out now. Thanks for checking out these episodes that hopefully you see the next step we encourage after reading and learning from the books we’ve collected – using them to preach the Gospel and building the Church. Here’s the historic reliability of the Resurrection for a high school audience.

TIMELINE:00:00 – Introduction
01:12 – The Centrality Of The Resurrection
02:19 – Why Did Jesus The Messiah Have To Die?
07:35 – How To Have Proof Without A Body
12:15 – 3 Avenues Of Proof
12:34 – Disciples Preaching
16:27 – The Four Gospel Eyewitnesses
20:24 – The Women Witnesses
24:16 – Post-Mortem Apperances
25:21 – The 500 Witnesses
25:54 – James, The Brother Of Jesus
27:30 – Saul Of Tarsus (Paul)
29:17 – The Origin Of The Church

LINKS:08:52 – J. Warner Wallice Interview
20:13 – Andreas Kostenberger Interview
29:10 – James Anderson Interview


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The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To Each OtherThis is part two of the mini-series I was privileged enough to teach to my (Patrick’s) church’s high school group.

We go from the Church’s relationship to God and move into the Church’s relationship to each other. Topics covered are communion, sharing meals, and fellowshipping with one another. I even call the students to rebel!


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The Church’s Purpose In Relationship To GodTaking a pause from our John Frame book, the next two weeks will be parts one and two of a message I (Patrick) gave to my church’s high school group.

This week I cover the Church’s relationship to God. Covering what is church then what is The Church and how does the church in community understand who God is and what He wants from us? You’ll notice a good number of topics covered from the show and that’s to show that this show isn’t just about me or about us – it’s about all of us opening books and learning who God is and how we can enjoy Him.


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John Frame’s TAG ArgumentFrame finishes up his critique of VanTil’s TAG argument and one that focuses on a big point of contention of TAG users – the apologetic use of probability and certainty. Then presented is John Frame’s TAG argument in which he offers not to eradicate TAG but offers a 6-point reevaluation of it.

Presuppositionalism still holds value and TAG still is important – it just might include a few extra areas of understanding and molding.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
00:40 – Absolute Certainty & Probability
02:42 – 3 Levels Of Certainty
13:56 – Frame’s Take On Certainty
19:50 – Frame’s Sketch On TAG
20:59 – John Frame’s 6-Point TAG Argument
23:14 – Presuppositionalists At Heart


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TAG, Trinity, & Negative ArgumentsWithin Frame’s critique of VanTil’s version of the transcendental argument, he’s not throwing it all away and Frame’s fair judgment of where TAG emphasizes the rights points are brought out. Here, TAG, Trinity, & negative arguments are discussed to show that TAG is best used, especially from a worldview level, by the Christian. Other theists might attempt to claim to use TAG for their religious outcomes, but the same approach to the Christian worldview must be taken with those claims.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:05 – TAG & The Trinity
06:21 – How TAG Can Defend Against Rival Theism (Like Islam)
09:47 – Negative & Positive Arguments
13:34 – Are Indirect Arguments Different Than Direct Arguments In TAG?
17:08 – TAG Doesn’t Suppress Pride
19:15 – Conclusion

LINKS:04:32 – The Problem Of The One & The Many Solved By God Existing (Ep.125)
08:09 – Truth In A Culture Of Doubt Playlist
17:03 – Ep. 55 – One Shot – Five Views On Apologetics & Faith Has Its Reasons


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Questioning TAGNow that John Frame has presented TAG in an overview, he is going to be questioning TAG as what he might consider some deficiencies – or at least in a way that VanTil presents TAG as being the one argument to rule them all and in the light, bind them.

This is exactly the thing we need in Christian circles of good, godly men who honor and treat fairly those who have come before and build upon their mighty works. As readers, let us also seek to do likewise.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:55 – Where’s VanTil’s TAG Argument?
05:57 – Greg Bahnsen – Classical Apologist?
08:39 – VanTil Makes God The God Of Non-Intelligibility
11:35 – Traditional God Arguments Can Be Useful Even To Presuppositionalists
13:10 – Traditional God Arguments Can Persuade People Even Over Presuppositional Ones
15:49 – TAG Is More Than A Single Argument
19:30 – God Is More Complex Than A Single Argument
21:33 – Conclusion

LINKS:04:20 – Gary Habermas On Revealed Apologetics Critique Of VanTil

22:39 – Hobbit Review From A 7-Year Old


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The Best Argument For God“The Transcendental Argument (TAG) is the best argument for God!”

You may have heard this claim along keywords like “preconditions of intelligibility” and “by what standard”. However, what makes TAG so powerful is something that is beneficial for not just the apologist or the philosophically minded to know and understand – this is a way to better understand who God is and be able to communicate that to your family, children, coworkers, and nonbelievers.

We’ll help break down John Frame’s breakdown of TAG and see if we don’t get broken down along the way.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:11 – The Desire To Expand Arguments
04:32 – Introduction To The Transcendental Arguments
06:06 – Kant & Transcendentalism
07:31 – Is Knowledge Even Possible?
09:39 – VanTil’s Christian Transcendentalism
12:12 – The Case Against Human Autonomy
14:41 – We Know Everything Until The Next Revolution
16:24 – One Must Adopt Only A Theistic Belief To Be Able To Know Things
17:43 – What Are The Preconditions Of Intelligibility
23:34 – TAG In An Outline
25:59 – To Argue Against God Is To Presuppose Him
27:18 – TAG In A Nutshell
29:55 – Logic Demands God’s Existence
35:51 – Ethics Demands God’s Existence
41:04 – Science Demands God’s Existence
48:02 – Conclusion & A Gentle Warning

LINKS:03:14 – Ep.138 – Dr. James Anderson Interview
03:38 – Dr. James Anderson On Is Presuppositionalism & TAG A Circular Fallacy
36:29 – Dr. James Anderson On The Metaphysical Proof Of God From Morality


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Accepting EvidenceAccepting evidence for a position seems like an easy thing to do in theory. See what’s presented before you and if you properly understand everything you move from unbelief to belief. Ya, well, except it’s definitely not that simple and it’s not how people come to belief, especially about something as big a concept as God. Not only is that the case for human nature and psychology but it’s also what The Bible has to say about belief as well. As Christians, maybe we should start listening to that a bit more.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:07 – Do We Have A Need For Proof?
08:29 – Does Evidence Lead To Christian Belief?
13:30 – Point Of Contact With Evidence
20:49 – How One Surpresses The Evidence
29:15 – Conclusion


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Apologetics As ProofIt might sound weird to say that we offer up apologetics as proof when it comes to our faith in God. But what Frame is presenting here is that we sometimes overestimate what we are thinking proof is or isn’t. We’ve let others define what faith is for so long that even if modern shows and movies acknowledge faith it’s always some bad take of believing in spite of evidence or what you know not to be the case. Frame lays out the position of what we see in Scripture as exercises of faith have a proof of evidence component to them and we should likewise consider this when we do apologetics.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:42 – Abraham Shows Us Proof Of Evidence In Faith
09:48 – Scripture As Proof Of Evidence In The Resurrection
17:29 – Jesus Gives Us Proof Outside Of Scripture As Well
21:59 – The Concept Of Proof
32:41 – Conclusion


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Every Thought CaptiveWe destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ (2 Corn. 10:5). Those same thoughts about the nature of all reality. The nature of knowledge. The nature of right and wrong. Not only those things but even how we present that message to others should be done by declaring that God is Creator and Sovereign and we should proclaim His message in the way He prescribes it to us in His Word.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:57 – God’s Sovereignty In Christian Metaphysics
06:22 – The Trinity In Christian Metaphysics
10:41 – God’s Role In Christian Epistemology
15:49 – God’s Role In Christian Ethics
22:49 – The Role Of The Gospel Good News In Apologetics
28:19 – The Uniqueness Of Christianity Is Unique
30:19 – Conclusion


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The Nature Of All RealityThe term “metaphysics” might seem like one of those scary words that only the eggheads use (true); the term just means what is the nature of all reality. What is it that makes the things we are and experience the things they are? The Christian worldview necessitates and calls for a drastically different take than what most scientists claim.

But why is that? When the establishment wants to say that all reality can be traced back to non-personal entities, the Christian worldview not only comes in conflict with that but also why the other side would want to and need to say the opposite.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
02:12 – Christianity Is Philosophy & Good News
05:30 – No Separation Of Church & State
11:31 – Christianity As Metaphysics In 3 Parts
12:20 – The Nature Of All Reality
14:58 – The Great Question Confronting Us On What Is Fundamental
18:37 – The Consequences Of Both Views
25:23 – The Survey Of Scientists Says…Only One?
31:54 – Christianity Explains Why Man Only Wants To See The Impersonal
36:51 – The Creator-Creature Distinction
40:21 – Conclusion

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Evidence & PresuppositionalismEvidence & presuppositionalism have absolutely nothing to do with each other! Well except that all evidence is God’s evidence and so the best use of evidence can be had when an apologist has established their foundation on something that makes sense of them and allows them to exist. The scary thing is that this entails everything in human history and beyond. The non-scary thing is that God is the “everything” and “beyond”. John Frame gives us the role of evidence for the presuppositions and warns us what bad apologetics could entail.

Timeline:00:00 – Introduction
01:40 – The Circularity Issue Question Mark?
09:19 – How The Christian & The Non-Christian Talk To Each Other
13:03 – Apologetics Can Take On Many Forms
14:12 – The Role Of Evidence For A Presuppositionalist
20:58 – God’s Responsibility & Ours
22:30 – What About Sola Scriptura?
26:20 – The Balance Of Sola Scriptura & Natural Revelation
32:56 – What’s The Value Of Apologetics?
33:45 – The Dangers Of Apologetics
44:07 – Conclusion


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The Basics Of ApologeticsWe crack open John Frame’s Apologetics book by doing what we like doing best here – defining our terms. With that we find out what the basics of apologetics are and the right way and wrong way we can carry out the command from Scripture to always be ready to give an apologetic for the hope that you have. But what about the verses before and after that? Well, those are important too. Oh ya, and all the rest of Scripture. You probably should read that all.

Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
00:50 – Apologetics’ Creed – Begin With Christ
04:53 – 3 Aspects Of Apologetics
06:21 – Apologetics As Proof
09:12 – Apologetics As Defense
10:29 – Apologetics As Offense
14:11 – Relationship To The Aspects
16:38 – The Word Of God As Our Ultimate Commitment
19:27 – Apologetics Is Not An Neutral To God’s Word
24:21 – What Opposing Neutrality Means
26:17 – Neutrality Doesn’t Mean There Are No Areas Of Agreement
30:31 – Conclusion

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The Need To Clarify And EncourageAnother apologetics book? But why? 2,000 years of Church History and we haven’t said everything we need to say? Well, believe it or not, another apologetics book is needed as it gives us the ability to clarify and encourage. Also, it’s kind of what the Bible tells us to do and that’s a pretty big deal.

Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
01:27 – Frame On The 1st Edition
04:31 – Frame On The Term Presuppositionalism
08:52 – Why Another Book On Presuppositionalism?
10:52 – Why Another Edition Of Apologetics By Frame?
12:00 – A Biblical Perspective On Apologetics
14:41 – Obedience To Scripture
17:11 – Application To Unbelief
18:51 – A Constant Need For Clarification
23:52 – Ch.1 Finally…Next Week


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Introducing John Frame & ApologeticsWe begin our next book by introducing John Frame & apologetics. We open to the preface where Frame’s friend and ministry partner Vern Poythress gives us a mini-book in apologetics and what we’ll see in the rest of the book. If we can talk about just the preface for this long, just imagine the bang for your buck you’ll be getting for the rest of the book!

Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
01:36 – Book Introduction
02:29 – John Frame Introduction
05:02 – Forward By Vern Poythress Intro
08:05 – Be A Disciple
09:10 – Discipleship Affects Apologetics
14:31 – The Lure Of Religious Neutrality
17:42 – No One Is Really Neutral
21:31 – We All Bring Prior Commitments To The Table
24:33 – Presuppositionalists And Bad Circularity?
28:31 – The Centrality Of The Bible For Apologists
29:15 – God Gives Us Language To Use To Communicate With Him
30:16 – We Are Not Independent Of God, So Let’s Not Act Like It
31:33 – Universities Try & Act Independent From God
34:32 – Our Christianity Should Direct How We Share Christ
35:52 – The Irony Of Unbelief
41:44 – The Persuasiveness Of General Revelation
44:22 – The Need For Christ Followers To Disciple In Apologetics
45:38 – Conclusion


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2022 Book Reviews – Part 2The final reviews of 2022 include some IndiePub, poetry, sci-fi, and theology. Our hope for our ministry is that you pull off those books from your shelf, blow off the dust, and make use of them for God’s glory. You can start at any time and start at any length of book. Our God is a storyteller and we reflect His image when we read and write our stories. Let us do all for the glory of God.

TIMELINE:Timeline:
00:00:00 – Introduction
00:00:20 – What About Evil By Scott Christensen
00:03:56 – Travels In The Land Of Serpents And Pearls By Marco Polo
00:05:36 – How We Weep And Laugh At The Same Thing By Michel De Montaigne
00:09:46 – Anthem For Doomed Youth By Wilfred Owen
00:11:27 – How High We Go In The Dark By Sequoia Nagamatsu
00:20:04 – Fighting For Holiness By J.C. Ryle
00:23:34 – The Lord’s Work In The Lord’s Way & No Little People By Francis Shaeffer
00:26:51 – Created Equal By Michael Pack & Mark Paoletta
00:31:48 – Uriel’s Revenge By David Roome
00:40:20 – Grace At Work By Bryan Chapell
00:44:41 – The Emotional Life Of Our Lord By B.B. Warfield
00:49:01 – Dark Matter By Blake Crouch
00:54:12 – Sheltering Mercy By Ryan Whitaker Smith & Dan Wilt
00:57:21 – Against All Opposition By Greg Bahnsen
01:01:14 – Omelas Revisted By C.S. Johnson
01:03:14 – Conclusion

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LINKS00:52 – What About Evil Playlist

11:16 – AnarchoChristian Episode On Anthem For Doomed Youth

58:30 – Against All Opposition Playlist

01:01:01 – Finding Truth Playlist

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2022 Book Reviews – Part 1For the last two weeks of the year, we’ll be populating the show with books Patrick has read during the year. Some are homeschool supplementals, some are fiction, and – yes, some are even theology. Whether you’re set in your ways of only picking books from the New York Times from Trad Pubs or you’re a guilded member of the Iron Age of Indie Pubs, we hope this might help in finding some good books to read before they collect dust on your shelves. Reviews contain No Spoilers…except that God wins in the end.

TIMELINE:Timeline:
00:00 – Introduction
02:31 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Use Their Talents By Irene Howat
07:46 – How To Read A Painting By Christopher Jones
10:41 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Didn’t Give In By Irene Howat
14:49 – You Wouldn’t Want To Be A Sumerian Slave By Jacqueline Morley
16:29 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Made History By Irene Howat
19:59 – EMMA – Emergent Movement Of Militant Anarchists By Michael Segedy
22:07 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Made A Difference By Irene Howat
25:50 – Our Darker Angel By Michael Segedy
28:37 – Recovering The Lost Tools Of Learning By Douglas Wilson
32:52 – Ten Boys/Girls Who Changed The World By Irene Howat
36:00 – Taking Hold Of God By Joel Beeke & Brian Najapfour
39:00 – You Wouldn’t Want To Be An Assyrian Soldier By Rupert Matthews
41:23 – Recovering The Lost Art Of Reading By Leland Ryken & Glenda Faye Mathes
45:39 – Praying The Bible By Donald Whitney
47:54 – Prayer (9Marks) By John Onwuchekwa
50:52 – Alfred The Great By Justin Pollard
55:24 – To Be Continued Next Week

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Bob Murphy Interview ReduxThe final two weeks of the year will be a year-end roundup of the book Patrick has read and starting the first Monday of the year we’ll be starting John Frame’s Book “Apologetics – A Justification Of Christian Belief”.

Today we revisit episodes 47 & 48 with Dr. Bob Murphy @BobMurphyAncap . This was an honor for me to have a conversation to the man who inspired me to learn more about economics for the glory of God. Dr. Murphy is a brilliant Austrian economist and Christian whose contributions and insights into economics is one of the best out there today.

In this first part of the interview, Dr. Murphy talks about what economics is and why Christians should care. We also discuss the fact that the Christian worldview accounts for economic theories. We also talk about the application of Austrian Economic theory, a theory based on presuppositional claims, when it comes to showing that slavery is not only immoral but a terrible economic decision.

In this second part of the interview, Dr. Murphy talks about where economic truth derives from. If the Fall never occurred would economic principles still stand? Then we talk about some of the weird stances people can have when applying economic principles to other parts of their lives.

Dr. Murphy and Patrick have a discussion on the similarities Austrian Economics has with Presuppositional Apologetics. Dr. Murphy gives some advice to Christians from an economic standpoint & encourages other Christians to learn economics as part of God’s ordered universe.

The episode link is cavetothecross.com/MurphyRedux/


About Dr. MurphyDr. Murphy is a Research Assistant Professor at the Free Market Institute at Texas Tech University. He is also Senior Economist with the Institute for Energy Research, a Research Fellow with the Independent Institute, an Associated Scholar Senior Fellow with the Mises Institute, and a Senior Fellow with the Fraser Institute in Canada. His current research focuses on the economics of climate change as well as the impact of minimum wages. He earned his B.A. in economics from Hillsdale College and his Ph.D. in economics from New York University.

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Dr. Murphy’s BooksUnderstanding Money Mechanics

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The Case for IBC

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Study Guide to Man, Economy, and State

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J. Warner Wallace Interview ReduxWe needed to reschedule some things for our next book so we’re almost thinking of starting Frame’s book at the first of the year. Next couple of weeks, I’m thinking of doing a year-end review of all the books I read this year and see if there’s any interest in that. This week we’re pulling an interview that we did with J. Warner Wallace @ColdCaseChristianity all the way back from episodes 51 and 52. We were all so young back then…

We discuss Detective Wallace’s background and what led him to start questioning the claims of Christianity. He talks about using his approach for looking at the veracity and claims of the biblical Gospels and how the Gospels differ from the Book Of Mormon. Then we discuss some responses from critics of the Gospel.

In the second half, we take a deeper look into Detective Wallace’s process of establishing the Gospels as credible eyewitness testimony. We then ask him how he deals with evaluating the possibility of supernatural causes in everyday life. We, of course, have to talk about how he responds to presuppositionalists and also the great case for morality Christians have. We finish up with a charge and challenge from Detective Wallace on always being ready to give a defense for the hope we have.

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Cold-Case Christianity: A Homicide Detective Investigates the Claims of the Gospels by J. Warner Wallace

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Our 9th Book AnnouncementA very blurry Patrick (if you’re watching the video) announces the 9th book that’s going to be covered on the show. Links are here in the description and we hope you’ll join us as we focus (with Patrick’s camera in focus) on this next book in our book club.

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Internal Critique Of Other Religions With the final chapter of Bahnsen’s book, we look at the internal critique of other religions. The same system we’ve been using with looking at worldviews for other philosophies and worldviews works just as well with religion. In fact, the codification and systematic approach other religions have probably make it [...]

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Dualism & Other Religions Critiqued Moving on from atheism to see how dualism & other religions critiqued. Applying the two-step method of providing an internal critique and then giving the biblical answer, we see the arbitrary and inconsistent nature of these worldviews. Platonism with its mind and body dualism and Aristotle with his materialism give [...]

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All Unbelievers Believe Continuing with the internal critique of both the Christian and the unbeliever, the Christian comes to see that since God is Sovereign and Creator over all things and all men are made in His Image, it is impossible to rebel so far away from that so as to be outside of God’s [...]

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Atheist Issues – Mind & Morality The problem of induction to do science and the problem of deduction to do logic are used but are baseless in a materialistic atheistic worldview. But that’s not the only issues. Atheist issues mind & morality also arise with great issue. The mind, as opposed to the brain, just [...]

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Atheist Issues – Induction & Deduction One of the most common worldviews you’re likely to encounter is that of the materialistic atheist. This worldview states that reality is only made up of physical things. There is no supernatural or transcendental realm of objects. Only what’s available to our senses is what is real and that’s [...]

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Tools To Evaluate Worldviews We finish the chapter by looking at some more tools to evaluate worldviews. Finishing up with atomists that want to keep free will we see hedonism and existentialism reign here. Then we take a slight detour to cover those worldviews that say you either can’t know or it doesn’t matter what [...]

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Three Views Of Reality If there’s one thing we tend to stress on this show it’s that definitions matter. If you can define it then you can classify it. If you can classify it then you’re better able to know where that fits in the conversation about God, His World, and those who exist in [...]

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Everyone Is A Philosopher Everyone Is A Philosopher! It doesn’t matter your education or lack there of. It doesn’t matter if you are from the West or the East or from Mars. You can not know any Latin or you know how to get angry at the drive-through order taker in a dead language. You [...]

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Borrowing From The Christian Worldview Not only should we reject the charge to be neutral when approaching any area that pertains to God, but we should also realize that since this world is God’s world and we are all made in His image that even unbelievers are found borrowing from the Christian worldview – and [...]

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No One Is Neutral, No Not One We’re back! Well – Tony is back! You’ve caught up on your book, right? You haven’t been letting it collect dust again, have you? We pick back up with Bahnsen’s book talking about if we should approach the subject of God (or anything) with a neutral standpoint. Both [...]

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Apologetics Effects Affect Starting next week, Tony and I should be reunited in digital form to continue going through our Greg Bahnsen’s Against All Opposition. I was kindly invited by some new friends at the Michigan Apologetics Network to give a talk on anything that I wished. I talked about how apologetics isn’t an end [...]

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Fund Students Not Systems Homeschool, private, public, or any other school parent in between should check out and support those groups with the mantra of “Fund Students Not Systems”. Policy expert, Jeff Park (Alberta Parents’ Union & Co-Host of The Anarchist Bible Study) joins me in the second half of the interview. In this section, [...]

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The Christian Responsibility To Educate Children Is it the Christian responsibility to educate children or is it fine leaving that to the so-called experts? While the answer may seem simple enough, we invited an expert on public policy in education and Christian podcaster Jeff Park. He talks about the Christian’s responsibility in educating one’s children [...]

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Looking Through Church History When we look through Church History we see men, women, build-ups, big events, small events, death, sorrow, and Gospel worship. When we are looking through Church History we see those people and events give us things we enjoy and take for granted today. Troy Fraiser from Revived Thoughts podcast once again [...]

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Church History Matters This week I’m joined by THE Troy Fraiser who is one part of the Revived Studio/Revived Thoughts podcast empire. He joins me to discuss why Church history matters and what we can learn from it. What does this have to do with apologetics? The past 2,000 years of the church have been [...]

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Take Every Thought Captive The Christian is commanded to take every thought to obey Christ (2 Corinthians 10:5). It’s not just in the realm of morality or on Sundays. It doesn’t involve just the personal thoughts or the public actions. Every thought is to be conformed to the sovereignty of God. Even our apologetics? Even [...]

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Facts Don’t Change Hearts What do you mean facts don’t change hearts? You just build up enough facts on top of someone they can’t help but change their minds. While that might be true of some low investment beliefs think about something like the abortion debate. Does talking about the science of human life at [...]

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The War Between Faiths Listen you illogical Christian, we can talk about if God exists but you have to not rely on your ultimate standard or any scholar who is a Christian. You can’t rely on anyone philosopher older than 20 years ago because they’ve all been proven wrong and you definitely can’t rely on [...]

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Where Everyone Starts Thinking Give me just the facts and only then will I believe. No. No. Not those facts I don’t like those facts! The idea that one starts with zero assumptions and believes ideas based on just the facts is nice thinking but it’s not how people think. Where everyone starts thinking is [...]

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All Have Faith In Their Reasons The fight of the 20th century, folks! Who will win in the the two giants in their field? Will it be Faith which seems to be slowing down from its prime? Or is it Reason; the newcomer who claims to be the unfeeling, unemotional piece of iron? There can [...]

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Center Of Every Worldview At the start of this book is the answer to what’s at the center of every worldview. It’s not the end conclusion we need to begin with. It’s the before we start parts that are important. Halfway is not where we want to begin our apologetics and we don’t want to [...]

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Book 8 Announcement This week we have our Book 8 announcement on what we’re going to cover next! Starting next week we’ll take a deep dive into the book chapter-by-chapter and break down all the hard words, new concepts, and philosophy mumbo jumbo. Join our book club where you can pull up a chair and [...]

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Why? For God’s Glory! Scott Christensen has written an amazing book that is not just a dry, academic look at the question of why evil exists. Why? For God’s Glory! Pastor Christensen joins us to talk about his Greater-Glory Theodicy that places God at the center of the picture of the ultimate story of reality. [...]

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Free Will Theodicy Failures We have the pleasure of welcoming back to the show our first guest, our first returning guest, and author of the book we recently finished “What About Evil? A Defense of God’s Sovereign Glory” – Pastor Scott Christensen. This was such a great discussion we wanted to break it up into [...]

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The Greater Glory Effect And now comes the end. The Great-Glory Theodicy showcases the greater glory effect. It is seen in the forgiving nature of the Christian as it reflects the forgiving nature of God. Even the worse of humanity, the most painful, the most destructive nature of man is no match for the grace [...]

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How Should We Then Live? We live in a world infested with evil. We live in a world held in the sovereign hand of God. How should we then live? The Christian life is one led in a moment of three simultaneous instances of sight. We look back on our lives that were in rebellion [...]

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The Coming Redeemer No, we’re not doing The Return Of The King, but we are looking forward to the end of this book as we are looking forward to the end of The Book of the Coming Redeemer. These books will have a single ending unlike a certain 3rd movie you might be thinking about. [...]

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The Resurrection Explained! Why was the end of the Incarnation of Jesus on Earth important? What does it mean to people before, during, and after the Cross? How does the Resurrection ensure a believer’s redemption? Well, this is the first part of the Resurrection explained! What does it all mean? Everything! With the Resurrection of [...]

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The Suffering Redeemer The Christian story emphasizes a focus on the suffering of Jesus Christ. He is our suffering Redeemer. Being born, living in the ancient Near East, being hungry and poor, and ultimately being nailed on a cross illegally as the most innocent person ever involves suffering. Not only does this not seem to [...]

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Does God Have Emotions? When we talk about Jesus as God and as the Suffering Servant the question of, “Does God have emotions?” is to be asked. Is God able to have emotions like us humans? Is He surprised at the evil He sees in the world? Is prophecy, then, just a lucky guess by [...]

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Fully Man & Fully God Jesus not only is fully man & fully God but He must be both in that full capacity to accomplish everything He must for our salvation. To deny His humanity is to not have a stand-in for humanity. To deny His Godhood is to not have the ability to pay [...]

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Why The Incarnation Had To Happen The Greater-Glory Theodicy centers on the character of who God is and the reasons He has in glorifying Himself in a world of evil. With that in mind, why the incarnation had to happen was to uniquely and completely deal with all the evil in full. Once Christians were [...]

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Romans 9 Answers Why Evil Exists The promised chapter on how Romans 9 answers why evil exists is here! Continuing from our look at the Old Testament we look at Paul’s answer to why there exists evil and how God uses it for His glory. We are unable to divorce ourselves from the Old Testament [...]

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Redeeming Evil In The Old Testament One of the goals of the Greater-Glory Theodicy is to find not just the best logical explanation for why evil exists. It is also to see if the special revelation of God details its reason. In this episode we look at how is God redeeming evil in the Old [...]

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Christianity, Sci-Fi, & Indie Publishing We are joined today by Katie Roome who is the founder and writer of Periapsis Press. We sit down and talk about Christianity, sci-fi, & indie publishing. Is there a difference between the genres; and what do they tell us about God’s story and humanity? So we’re talking nerdy today! [...]

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Was The Fall Necessary? One of the biggest questions that comes from the Greater-Glory Theodicy is this – Was The Fall necessary? Because that’s what it seems to imply. Well, that’s actually what it comes right out and says. It’s nothing to blush at or be embarrassed about. It’s the necessary outcome for God’s purposes. [...]

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God’s Glory Seen In Evil Now that we’ve laid out the Greater-Glory Theodicy that Scott Christensen has presented we unpack what it actually does that others don’t. In this theodicy, God’s Glory seen in evil is established. This doesn’t come from a novel, clever way to get around popular theories. This comes from the overall [...]

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The Greater-Glory Theodicy We’ve knocked down the standard explanations. We’ve established who God is and what He desires. We’ve told His story in history from a story tale. Now, we get to tackle what Scott Christensen believes is the best explanation for evil with all those elements put together – The Greater-Glory Theodicy. In this [...]

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God’s Purpose With Evil After setting the scene with Creation and The Fall, we are now able to see what God’s purpose with evil is. Following the story paradigm, we see God’s story played out in the rising action, climax, falling action, and denouement. Each part covers an evil plot point where God is able [...]

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Evil’s Purpose In God’s Story What is evil’s purpose in God’s story? To begin to understand the answer we look at the fact that God’s written story, The Bible, is more than just propositions and commands – it is also stories. As it is the first story by the original Author we can call it [...]

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The Structure Of God’s Story Now that we looked at what myths are and what the monomyth of God’s story is; we look at what the structure of God’s story is – as well as all other stories follow. The shared collective consciousness of humanity reflects what it cannot help – the reflection of their [...]

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God As The Monomyth Storyteller The term “myth” has a colloquial understanding of being made up or fake. But that’s not the true meaning of the word. Myths are stories told in a worldview used to relay information to a group and that story is made to stick. This universal concept derives itself from God. [...]

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How To Bring Apologetics Into The Church In this episode, we responds to a great listener question about how to bring apologetics into the church. The question is specifically from a pastor’s point of view but we answer it in a way to be useful for the pastor, elder, deacon, Christian teacher, or layperson to [...]

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God’s Responsibility In The Fall Continuing to look at God’s responsibility when it comes to evil, we look at God’s responsibility in the Fall of mankind. Both sides of the choice debate have to recognize the Fall as something unique and comes with their own set of questions. Which side is the most consistent AND [...]

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God Is Free Of Evil God is free of evil because of who He is and His transcendence over His creation. But is He still considered the “author of evil”? Looking at people like the authors of the Westminster Confessions, Jonathan Edwards, and John Frame we see the Reformed tradition is not caught off guard [...]

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God’s Work In Evil Now that we’ve established the character and nature of God and seen that The Bible doesn’t shy away from attributing God’s control to evil actions of humans, we look at two other aspects of evil The Bible talks about. In divine hardening, we see that God steers the desires of humans [...]

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Is God The Author Of Evil? Is God the author of evil? That’s the question that Reformed Christians must be able to answer especially after dismantling libertarian free will. Here we begin to look at the characteristics God embodies that informs the discussion of his sovereignty over evil. Looking at God’s absolute goodness and holiness [...]

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What About Compatibilism? We delve into the topic of God’s choosing and man’s choosing as it relates to evil. If you’ve ever wondered, “What about compatibilism? What is it and is it true?” this episode will break down the concept for you. First, we finish up the last two secondary characteristics that stem from God’s [...]

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God Is Transcendent Now that we’ve toppled over the main theodicies that have been preeminent in the discussion of evil; we turn back to what should start off any conversation rooted in the Christian worldview – the character and nature of God. Specifically, God is transcendent. God didn’t just happen upon the universe; He made [...]

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Divine Judgment & Hell Looking at one of the last main theodicies, we look at the topics of divine judgment & Hell. After laying out the argument from the divine-judgment defense we see that while this argument does have some merit to it, it is not an all-encompassing view of evil. With two interesting problems, [...]

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Soul-Making In The Best Possible World Two of the subset theodicies of the Greater-Good Theodicy are the Soul-Making Theodicy and the Best-Of-All-Possible-Worlds Defense. In these, soul-making in the best possible world gives a purpose to evil existing as a means to an end. From the soul-making side, we see this as a desire in our [...]

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Greater-Good Theodicy – Good From Evil Looking at another explanation for why there is evil in the world, we turn to the Greater-Good Theodicy. With this, we see a focus on the good that is accomplished as a result of the evil that occurs. From the evil actions of people or evil in the natural [...]

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Hermeneutics & Practical Bible Study Continuing our discussion from last week, Jeff and Josh from The Anarchist Bible Study and Patrick talk about how hermeneutics & practical Bible study and how to use each in the other. Hermeneutics isn’t important just for pastors, theologians, and seminaries. It is important for every Christian reading his/her Bible [...]

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Hermeneutics & Apologetics Hermeneutics & apologetics go hand-in-hand with each other. Since The Bible is our ultimate standard that it is important that we read it and interpret it the way God meant it to be. And to communicate it to other people accurately is just as important in our apologetics. Patrick is joined by [...]

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Free Will, Gratuitous Evil, & Natural Law Free Will, Gratuitous Evil, & Natural Law are all topics that are related in the free-will theodicy. Free will must deal with the same implications that compatibilists deal with and that’s the appearance of evil without purpose. We look at the different theories free will theists put out [...]

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Free Will & God’s Foreknowledge The concept of free will & God’s foreknowledge can be a heady concept. We attempt to accurately cover three different answers free will advocates attempt to allow God to have foreknowledge (or not have it). We do our best to break it down while attempting to be accurate to supporters [...]

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Problems With Free Will We continue to look at problems with free will in light of the explanation it supposedly gives Christians when it comes to answering the problem of evil. We see why the Reformed position rejects parts of libertarian free will in exchange for soft determinism. Libertarian free will undermines the doctrine of [...]

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Do We Have Free Will? The free will defense has done a lot in answering the logical problems of evil. While determinism has become more popular in the past decade among academics; the culture at large still has the embracement of free will. But do we have free will? We want to ask, “By what [...]

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Can God Answer Evil? Can God answer evil and the problems caused by suffering? That is what a theodicy attempts to do. It provides a justification for why suffering and evil exist and that God exists as presented. This is a reason why one has to stake a claim in a specific God like the [...]

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The Battle Of Two Moral Standards After finishing with defining our terms we look at ways in which those definitions play out in our worldviews. Here’s where the battle of two moral standards starts to interact and separate. Each side has a burden of proof since each side has a problem of evil. Where the [...]

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Defining Evil Definitions are one of the most important parts of having any conversation. A lot of times people use different definitions as a result of their worldview. So when it comes to the topic of evil, defining evil is vital. In this chapter, we look at a secular version as well as the Christian [...]

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Crisis Of Secularism Picking up where we left off last time; now that the world has shirked off God because of the evil all we are left now with is us and evil. Ut oh. We are in a crisis of secularism. The second part of the modern worldview is the advancing of secularism leading [...]

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The Enlightenment And Evil We ended up going long on this chapter and so we split it up into two episodes so there is a hard cut and no outro at the end of this episode. There’s a lot to cover with the Enlightenment and evil. Where did the problem of evil really become a [...]

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What About Evil Summary Along with the answer to the question, “What about evil?”, at the beginning of the book; Scott Christensen also gives us a What About Evil summary of the book too. Here is the chapter-by-chapter breakdown of the book with just a small take on what’s included. Within the book, we get [...]

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The Answer To Evil…Already? Scott Christensen takes the first part of the introduction to his book “What About Evil? A Defense of God’s Sovereign Glory” and does something interesting – he gives you the answer to evil at the start! First, he presents the idea that there does, in fact, exist evil and suffering in [...]

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TAG! Christianity Is It! We have the absolute pleasure of welcoming Dr. James Anderson to the show. We recently went through his book “Why Should I Believe Christianity” which was a presuppositional take on taking seriously the claims of the worldview of Christianity. We also said it was a good give-away book in that it [...]

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Prelude To Evil We introduce the next book we’re going over. The book is What About Evil? A Defense of God’s Sovereign Glory by Scott Christensen. In this episode, we just go over the prelude to evil. From the Amazon description: “Reconciling the existence of God and evil has been a long-standing conundrum in Christian [...]

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Prayer Help This week we welcome Pastor Jim Li onto the show for some prayer help. Pastor Li pastors in California but is very active in teaching in the Asian churches. As a result, his identity will be hidden today. And with Tony on vacation, you’re stuck looking at Patrick. Good thing we make an [...]

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If Christianity’s True We conclude Dr. James Anderson’s book by looking at what if Christianity’s true. We discuss alternative explanations to the Resurrection and see that they don’t rise to the occasion. Did Jesus swoon? Have His body stolen? By the disciples? By the Romans/Jewish leaders? Was it all an illusion? There are good reasons [...]

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Resurrection Proofs The ultimate moment in history for Christians is the Resurrection of Jesus Christ. If Christianity is true, this event is the most important event for every person who lived, living, or will ever live. Where do Resurrection proofs fit in the Christian worldview then? Through the anticipation of Old Testament prophecy, the testimony [...]

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Jesus Is God After looking at the claims made by others about who Jesus is, we turn to Jesus and see what He says about Himself. We can conclude that Jesus is God by His own testimony and the events surrounding His life. We look at Jesus accepting worship, approving the use of the title [...]

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Who Is Jesus? “Who is Jesus?” is a question that has not only been asked of by Christians and skeptics. That question is an important one to many other world religions, people seeking understanding, people of today and yesterday. A big part of the Christian worldview revolves around the centrality of – Christ, Jesus. We [...]

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Old Testament Christianity Is Old Testament Christianity an oxymoron or do we Christians still have a lot to learn from the Tanakh? Dr. Tiberius Rata is Associate Dean of the School of Ministry Studies and Professor of Old Testament Studies at Grace Theological Seminary. He is the author of several Old Testament commentaries as well. [...]

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Way, Truth, & Life Christianity declares that it is the sole way, truth, & life. But it is not the only origin truth claim in town. Eastern religions, Islam, and Judaism are competing truth claims. They are all mutually exclusive – contradict each other and can’t all be true. So examining what we’ve covered so [...]

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Written Bible A written Bible is expected and should be wanted. Following the logic that just as we are created beings who communicate in a personal way with language to convey information; we would expect the Creator God to also communicate in a personal way. So not only should we understand that something like the [...]

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Youth And Apologetics Are today’s youth and apologetics connecting each other to answers and growth in their Christian faith? We welcome Youth Pastor Justin McCoy from Calvary Bible Church in Kalamazoo, MI. Pastor McCoy works with kids and students from birth through college. He gives his take on the role of seminary today and the [...]

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God Is There God is there and there are things in the world that point to him. We finish the chapter covering how reason, the mind, and science all point to God’s existence. While atheists try and make themselves solely about science, we see their lack of grounding a bigger deal than they seem. As [...]

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Moral Meaning Moral meaning values come up when we talk about politics, society, business practices, and other interactions between people and the world. However, when we say that the world isn’t as it should be or that we should do something or we ought not to do something, we are declaring that we believe there’s [...]

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God Is There God is real and there are real implications from that truth. When critics attempt to end the discussion of asking for proof that God is real they look for only one type of proof. What they look for is evidential, physical proof. But because of the nature of God, that’s the wrong [...]

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He’s Written On Everything! We are beyond delighted and honored to sit down and interview Andreas Köstenberger. Dr. Köstenberger was a co-author in one of our recent chosen books, “Truth In A Culture Of Doubt” which was a response to many of Bart Ehrman’s writings and showing that Christianity provides answers to the critical historians’ [...]

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Salvation – The Relationship Of God & Man Salvation is the third and final aspect of the Christian worldview to cover to set the stage for why one should believe Christianity. We see that God is able to speak and does speak to His creation. And what He says echoes in eternity. Even while being [...]

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The Origin Of Original Sin We go from perfect sinlessness to the original sin. But hey, at least we enter the picture finally! One of the things that all worldviews attempt to answer is, “Why are we here?” and “How are things the way they are?” The Christian worldview speaks to both of those things [...]

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Who Is God? Who is God? Since Christianity is a worldview, we have to understand what that worldview says and where it comes from. Both questions’ answers are found in the revealed nature of who is God. God has the ability and right to be the source of the revelation of Himself. It is found [...]

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A Faith Test Is it possible to put truth claims of a faith to a test? Dr. James Anderson showcases a four-fold test for seeing if the whole worldview system of a religion or belief system can be shown to be believable. Not only can this be done in isolation of another belief system but [...]

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Christianity As A Worldview Everyone has a worldview but not everyone realizes it. When considering Christianity, breaking it up into its components allows critics to misconstrue the whole system of Christianity. Since Christianity is an entire worldview outlook, we must look at the belief system as the entire system in total lest we create straw [...]

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Skepticism As Default Approach? Should we approach all claims with skepticism? While it seems like this is the smartest approach it’s not how we approach most truth claims.  So when it comes to Christianity we should have an understanding of our beliefs and our ability to know true things.  Finally, it’s important to understand that [...]

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How Can I Prove Christianity? If one were to go about trying to prove Christianity, how would one do that?  The first question to ask is really, “Why should anyone believe anything at all?”. In the introduction to James Anderson‘s book, we look at that and why believe Christianity in particular.  Is all truth relative?  [...]

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Transcend- Whatsit?! Transcendental Argument. Starting March 29, we’ll be starting this book – https://amzn.to/2PzTp2U This book simply lays out the arguments backing up the beliefs of Christianity and explores what Christianity really claims, and shows the underlying reason and consistency behind these claims. If you’ve looked into getting into presuppositionalism or try to understand the [...]

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Rose From The Dead? Rose From The Dead! Jesus rose from the dead. That’s the claim of The New Testament. We close our book with a look at the response to this claim from Bart Ehrman’s challenges to it. Was Jesus even buried? Did the disciples hallucinate the resurrected Jesus? Did the disciples just make [...]

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Apocryphal Books Of The Bible? Are there lost, Apocryphal books that should have been included in The Bible? Finishing the chapter on how the New Testament should include the authentic books that are there, we look at why not other books. Why do we include only the 27 books and not 12 others or Gnostic [...]

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Who Wrote The Bible? Who wrote The Bible? The next two claims of forgery against the New Testament are the allegations of illiterate authors & false attribution to authors. Were the NT writers too illiterate to write their documents & couldn’t find another way to get their ideas down to be disseminated to others? Is [...]

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Fraud In The Bible? Fraud in The Bible by the New Testament authors? Say it isn’t so! Not really. The claim that anonymous authors, centuries after the life of Christ and the apostles were the real authors of the Christian Scriptures is false. In fact, without a full-on skeptical presuppositional worldview, one could see just [...]

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Continuing our look at the Walter Bauer hypothesis, we look at 3 more claims about early Christian orthodoxy. Were the leaders too biased to be good witnesses and chose what teachings made it in? Then the claim that central church leaders won by force of will what beliefs came out on top. Finally, moving into [...]

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We begin by looking at the theory of Walter Bauer. Bauer theorized that there were many early Christianities that existed at the start and each one had their own set of orthodoxy. The only real orthodoxy that rose to the surface was by those who used their collective might to assert their will and dominate [...]

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Finishing up the chapter on having confidence that we have The Bible as originally written, we cover the last three claims from Bart Ehrman. We show the complexity of early Christian scribes and the systems they developed. We see how hard it is to get in the mind of an actual scribe but see that [...]

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Covering the first three claims Bart Ehrman makes about the corruption & untrustworthiness of the New Testament, we see that nuance is needed. Not having the original manuscripts, loss of original readings, and textual variants are claims that play well to a particular audience. Yet, when we look at the details we actually see a benefit to many of the alleged "issues".

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The Bible was not beamed into the minds of robot authors and the copying of the original texts were not divinely protected so that no error could be made in the copy. Doesn't seem like that startling of a message. However, Bar Ehrman became popular on the message - which is quite odd. So we cover the topic of how the New Testament came to be and how scribes, manuscripts, and textual variants help us to have confidence that we have the Word of God preserved in the text of The Bible.

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Ever since the inception of Christianity, Jesus & the Apostles warned against false teachers and the need to identify them. It is important to see what that looks and compare what's said to what God says. So Lauren from Tulips & Honey Podcast and Patrick from Cave To The Cross Apologetics slog through the entirety of Joyce Meyer's book "Battlefield Of The Mind". This...this was something.

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Looking at the final three claims of Bart Ehrman when it comes to the Bible having contradictions that make it a non-trustworthy historical story. We look at the difference in chronology and details and see that Ehrman's claims don't really add up to contradictions. We also look at Ehrman's biggest claim in that Jesus was never thought of as being God or claimed to be God. It was only later, that His followers made those claims. We look at the internal critique which shows just the opposite.

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Finishing the chapter dealing with alleged contradictions, we look at a few allegations Bart Ehrman makes. We look at the claim that Matthew & Paul contradict each other when it comes to salvation & The Law. We also look at the somewhat odd claim that there are some harmonizations that can't be made with certain events of the New Testament, one of them being the trial of Jesus.

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We look at Bart Ehrman’s claim that the authors of the NT have contradictory points of view on major issues. We cover three test cases of the Gospel writers and show that the alleged contradictions have logical explanations when viewed historically and fairly. Timeline Breakdown: 00:00 – Introduction 01:06 – Claim 1 – The NT [...]

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Introducing the chapter on the subject Bart Ehrman is known for, we look at the presuppositions Ehrman has that comes at a price of exclusion of other Bible scholars. The circle Ehrman draws around the "correct understanding of the Bible" seems to come from a place of his own choosing. He also establishes his own criteria for infallibility and speaks out against The Bible when it fails to meet his standard. We cover just the introduction to the chapter before getting into the five claims addressed in the rest of it.

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Covering the second part of Bart Ehrman's critique of the Bible's explanation for the existence of evil and suffering, we cover a few critiques of the critiques. Ehrman doesn't seem to like the reasons the Bible gives and doesn't find them satisfying. He also finds them contradictory. There are answers there and hopefully, this gives Christians better motivation to understand the doctrines they hold to in order to be able to give answers to someone even if they are as prolific and impressive as Ehrman is.

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Responding to one of Ehrman's lesser-known book, "God's Problem". We discuss the introduction to some of the problems Ehrman raises and dig into the first objection of is there a contradiction of God being sovereign and God being good with all the evil and suffering in the world. Ehrman is not much known for him being a theologian or a philosopher so an odd subject for him to tackle. However, this is a subject which everyone comes to ask themselves about and should ask if their worldview gives a consistent argument to explain the existence (or non-existence) of evil and suffering.

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Covering the introduction, we cover a bit more of Bart Ehrman and his work. Ehrman claims Christian scholarship has presuppositions going into the subject of New Testament scholarship. Ehrman, however, also has presuppositions whether he admits them or not. We also talk about the desired one should have to present alternative viewpoints in scholarship and present them in the best light to respond to them. Finally, we suggest a few additional free resources.

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A short episode to introduce our new book "Truth In A Culture Of Doubt" by Andreas Köstenberger, Darrell Bock, and Josh Chatraw. The Preface covers why the book is being written and why the critique is against Bart Ehrman, one of the most well known critical scholars of the New Testament.

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Here’s an Amazon link to our next book – https://amzn.to/2JX62lL that we’ll be starting on November 16. One of the current, most popular names in New Testament scholarship is that of Bart Ehrman.  Ehrman has made a name for himself by going from evangelical believer to skeptical agnostic.  He has also written many popular-level, New [...]

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We close out Greg Koukl's book "Tactics" with a final charge to be a better ambassador for Christ. We cover some tips and some challenges that will help us go out and deliver the Good News.

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Before we get to the conclusion of Tactics by Greg Koukl, we want to cover five mini tactics at the end. We talk about applying Jesus' own words to a conversation, how to handle name-calling, embracing true but irrelevant objections, using better descriptor words than religious words, and the power of just saying, "So?".

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If (or since) the Christian message is true, there are certain outcomes that stem from that starting point. One of those is that all people have in them the Imago Dei or "Image of God" and are imbued with certain universals. It is one of the reasons presuppositionalists want to speak to that realization when talking with unbelievers. With this inside quality making its way outside in people's thinking and action, we can use this tactic to speak to that.

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Believe it or not, sometimes Christians know what they're talking about. We cover the tactic to use and not to be a jerk about it. We also cover a few examples like responding to Christopher Hitchen's "God Is Not Great", Dan Brown's "The DaVinci Code", abortion is murder, & Bible translation.

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A little longer episode today but one that is important. There are times when you, Average-Christian-Person have to respond to people who have "Dr." before their names, a bunch of letters after, and are called "scholars" and "experts". The question is, how do we respond to claims made by so-called scholars or true scholars that may speak out against Christian claims (or any claim really)? Well, here are a few ways we can.

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We are pleased to be joined by the creator and CEO of GotQuestions.org - Shea Houdmann!  We talk about Shea's journey to create one of the best depositories of answers to Christian answers on the whole internet.  We talk about what the work is like and how it's done.  We also talk about the questions they get the most and the weirdest ones.

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Because we live in a lot of interactions online, we seem to be going away from the interaction types where you speak and I listen THEN I speak and you listen.  In the day of response videos, reaction to only headlines, and wanting that "mic drop moment", we sometimes encounter people who want to steamroll the conversation.  Here are some tactics on how to gracefully handle those moments.

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In this section, we look at evaluating the lens through which people see the world - through their worldview. Greg Koukl suggests that we, for the sake of argument, adopt their worldview and see where it might take us. Evaluating worldviews is a staple of the presuppositions model and a strong tool in a dialogue between opposing worldviews.

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For the third part of the tactic on identifying arguments that self-destruct, we look at two different ones.  We look at arguments that when held up next to each other aren't allowed to exist at the same time and be consistent.  The other is arguments who have an underlying assumption that knocks out the claim.  We cover a few examples in there as well.

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We looked at when arguments fail because they contradict themselves.  Now we look at when arguments don't formally contradict themselves but they still fail due to practical reasons.  We have to remember, that the tactics here are to help engage in a dialogue and not used to make the other side feel like a failure.  Our goal is to give the Good News, not to "win".

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The next tactic to use when talking to someone about your faith is one that we've seen in our previous book by Nancy Pearcey "Finding Truth". That is looking at what someone is saying and seeing if their own statement contradicts itself. Sometimes this is called the internal critique and if it contradicts itself it can be easily dismissed.

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So now that we have all parts of the Columbo down, can it ever be used against us?  Well, that's what we want!  The tactics are there to have a good, helpful conversation!  However, there are times when the third part - ask leading questions - are neither leading anywhere or actually legitimate questions.  How do we combat that?  Would you be surprised to learn - the Columbo tactic?!

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Completing the Columbo Tactic we see why it is such an important and versatile tactic. Now it’s time to use it. What can we do before getting into conversations and after? What style of presentation should we take? Who is our real audience? All questions to ask and learn to ask now. The episode link [...]

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Before getting to the third part of the Columbo tactic, Greg Koukl stops to inform us of two encounters we may have using the tactic. One encounter is with a surly professor who wants to decry Christianity but make you back up your side when you object. The other is the person who knows a lot more about the subject being discussed than you. Your hosts can relate to these encounters.

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The Columbo Tactic, as Greg Koukl presents it, is such an important one that we need to really break it down and understand it. This episode covers the first of three points to the tactic. To have a productive and enriched conversation asking two simple questions (for now) will really help out both sides.

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We introduced Greg Koukl's first tactic - the Columbo tactic. Deemed the queen move of all of them, this way of respectfully setting the tone and direction of your conversations about faith with others.

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Great! Now is the time to put on the boxing gloves and wail on some atheists by the power of God!

Ya, not so much.  Greg Koukl gives us a second part of the introduction where he lays out what the Christian means when we say "argument".  We don't want to have a shouting match with someone we want to have a fruitful conversation. We also want to have a proper understanding of God's sovereignty and His role in salvation.  Before we utilize our tactics, we need to have the crucified to Christ mindset.

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We start our new book! Tactics by Greg Koukl. We cover the introduction including what we'll learn from this book and the heart attitude the Christian should have when engaging people in conversation. We hope you enjoy this well-respected author and book. Follow along with us or just be a member of our book club.

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We welcome Dr. Lydis McGrew to the show to talk about her two books, "Hidden in Plain View" and "The Mirror and the Mask". For this part, we cover Dr. McGrew's book about whether or not the Gospels are Literary Device or Historical Narrative. Literary devices are the theory that the Gospels are used by the authors to convey a message over being historically accurate. There's a lot to be said about this subject and a lot of controversy so we should approach this with balance and reading both sides in the best light possible.

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We welcome Dr. Lydis McGrew to the show to talk about her two books, "Hidden in Plain View" and "The Mirror and the Mask". For part one we cover Dr. McGrew's first book about undesigned coincidences in the New Testament.  Dr. McGrew and her husband, Dr. Tim McGrew are fellow Kalamazooians and we talk about her start into apologetic philosophy.  She then explains how undesigned coincidences lend to the credibility of The Bible including the establishment of miracles.  This really is a fascinating subject and we hope to do more videos on this subject.

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We wrap up Professor Pearcey's book with a challenge to Christians and to the Church.  That challenge is to stand firm on the Word of God as you say that you do, learn and use critical thinking skills that God encourages us to use, and to go into the world preaching the Good News of the Gospel. 

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We finish up Principle 5 by continuing to present examples of atheists freely admitting to stealing from Christianity's superior worldview. So much so that non-theists attempt to elbow into areas addressed previously by Christianity - including atheist churches. Along with a warning about scientism, Christians are encouraged to present the Gospel with love and respect.

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Onto Principle 5! We talk about how and why the Christian should present the Christian worldview as the superior and most consistent one. We then go over where the atheist(s) freely admit to stealing from the Christian worldview in order to come to the beliefs they want to rather than the outcomes their beliefs would demand.

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We finish up the chapter by looking at how the postmodern worldview, and it’s subsections, destroy themselves. We look at the Social Justice Movement, Critical Race Theory, and similar progressive stances actually fall apart of themselves. Finally, we look at how Christianity offers the better, consistent, and complete worldview. The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep73 Books [...]

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We continue our look at the internal critique of non-Christian worldviews and focus especially on Darwin. We also see what CS Lewis has to say about belief in atheism. Finally, we talk about the benefits of the Christian worldview and how it doesn't fail the internal critique.

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Principle 4 - does the worldview meet its own standard when it is applied to itself?  Since non-Christian worldviews tend to be reductionistic they will be self-defeating.  In this episode, we introduce the principle and why it is one of the most important tools you have in your apologetic quiver. 

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Strap in; we're talking about religion and politics today!  Our friend, Lauren, from the Tulips & Honey Podcast interviews Patrick on how Christians should respond to government in light of Scripture.  The launchpad for this is Romans 13.  From there, they discuss what does Romans 13 actually mean; what should the Christian's response to the State and its overreach be; how should a Christian view the use of force against people and against government; and can one be a Christian and an anarchist?

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How exciting is this?!  We welcome Professor Nancy Pearcey herself to the show!  We talk to her about her coming to faith in Christ and her experience at L'Abri with Francis Schaeffer.  Then we talk about her book we've been going over "Finding Truth" and talk about the book in general and in specific. 

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Finishing up the chapter, we look at the worldviews of postmodernists and its failure to account for what's seen in the exterior world. When failing to live consistently with the belief that everyone is a robot and no one should really be held accountable for their actions, we see many fall back to wanting to believe Christianity is true but believing that it accounts for the facts too well.

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Here we delve deeper into the secular materialist when it comes to failing to account for the things seen in the world. We see that they tend to make leaps of faith in their outlook that they can’t back up. They then establish possible outcomes that are downright scary. To save them from immoral and [...]

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Picking up on the third principle, we now look at how non-Christian worldviews don't explain what is seen in the world.  With an idol replacing God, secular worldviews come upon truths in human nature or universal makeup or within the confines of experience that it must dismiss as an illusion or explain it away as not real.  The quotes taken from leaders in the field are quite shocking and honest but necessarily follows from their basic outlook on the world.

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Tony and Patrick had the distinct pleasure of interviewing their pastor at Calvary Bible Church in Kalamazoo, MI; Pastor Bret Laird.  Pastor Bret discusses why he decided to be a pastor as well as his time serving in Ukraine as a missionary pastor.  Finally, we also talk about the state of the American church and the role of apologetics. Plus, a few book recommendations!

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We finish our look at how non-Christian worldviews reduce humanity by looking at four different worldviews.  Looking at pantheism, Islam, Nazism, and communism shows that other worldviews need to cut off areas of humanity that they can't explain or that they must explain away.

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Who knew that a concept that doesn't believe in absolute truth would generate so much discussion?  Last week we introduced postmodernism and this week we look at how it reduces human value.  We also look at post-postmodernism and how Critical Race Theory, Social Justice, and Identity Politics is the new avenue of postmodern thought and how it still devalues humanity.

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Patrick had the pleasure of being a guest on the Tulips And Honey Podcast with Lauren and Becca.  The trio discuss the appropriate way and place to respond to false teachers and heresies.  They present the biblical definition of these theological words as well as the Scriptural basis where we see the writers of the New Testament encourage confronting false teachers and encouraging those newer to the faith to turn away from bad doctrine like the Word of Faith movement.

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We continue the chapter discussing how materialism and post-modernism sets up a reductionist view of humanity.  Materialism attempts to explain away consciousness and post-modernism attempts to spiritualize matter.

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We introduce the concept of the second of five parts in Pearcey's apologetic method.  When people make idols they end up replacing God with a substitute.  Another outcome is they reduce the proper view of man for something lesser.  We should always have a proper Creator/creature distinction, but we should never devalue those made in the image of God.

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We complete the section on identifying the idols different worldviews put in place of God.  Whether it be Marxism, naturalism, idealism, romantism, or other religions - each one tries to replace God for another divine understanding.

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We begin looking at the first principle for evaluating worldviews - identify the idol the worldview tries to replace God with.  Before looking at specific worldviews, we need to establish if there is any neutral ground, universality of worldviews, does every worldview count as a religion, and does every worldview have an understanding of something of the divine.

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We complete the introduction of our new book "Finding Truth" by Nancy Pearcey. We look at how humans suppress the knowledge of God by creating idols and the consequences of following after those false gods.  We then do an overview of the "5 Principles for Unmasking Atheism, Secularism, and Other God Substitutes".  Those five principles will be looked at in greater detail in episodes to come.

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We begin our new book "Finding Truth" by Nancy Pearcey today! Covering the first part of Part 1, we talk about the purpose and goal of the book.  Very important, right?  We cover Pearcey's presentation that the Bible gives us revelation of God's existence and that everyone has evidence for His existence.  Finally, we cover why not everyone believes even with the knowledge and evidence people have.

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This week's installment is "Five Views on Apologetics" by Gary Habermas, William Lane Craig, Paul D. Feinberg, Kelly James Clark, John M. Frame.  This is a really interesting book in an interesting book series "Counterpoint Series".  It brings five powerhouses of apologetics in conversation over what is the best way to do apologetics.  Each person presents a positive case for their preferred way and the others respond in critique and then a final response from the original presenter.  It is amazing these authors brought together on this subject.

We also present a little bit on a larger book in a similar subject and style from two authors categorizing apologetic methods and their development - "Faith Has Its Reasons" by Kenneth Boa and Robert M. Bowman Jr.

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Just a fun response video to our friends at the Tulips & Honey podcast.  Patrick got called out to give some answers to questions he posed to the ladies.  This doesn't need to be counted as a regular episode and we'll continue the normal Monday morning posts.

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This week's installment is "Defending Inerrancy" by Norman Geisler and William Roach.  Their assertion is that belief in biblical inerrancy is one of the major factors of a seminary falling into liberalism.  In this book, the authors present the Chicago Statement on biblical inerrancy.  From there they respond to critical responses to it and positive cases for the doctrine.

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For the first installment, we introduce to you "The Heresy Of Orthodoxy" by Michael J. Kruger & Andreas J. Köstenberger.  If you've ever read or heard anyone reference Bart Ehrman and his take on where the New Testament came from you've interacted with the Walter Bauer theory that Ehrman adapts.  The book attempts to refute the idea that at first there was what we now consider "heresy" and it only became "orthodoxy" after the might made it right.

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In this episode, we take a deeper look into Detective Wallace's process of establishing the Gospels as credible eye witness testimony. He then responds to how he deals with evaluating the possibility of supernatural causes in everyday life. We, of course, have to talk about how he responds to presuppositionalists and also the great case for morality Christians have. We finish up with a charge and challenge from Detective Wallace on always being ready to give a defense for the hope we have.

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In this first part of the interview, we discuss what Detective Wallace's background is and what led him to start questioning the claims of Christianity.  He talks about using his approach for looking at the veracity and claims of the biblical Gospels and how the Gospels differ from the Book Of Mormon.  Finally, we discuss some responses from critics of the Gospels.

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The final chapter of Dr. Mitch Stoke's book. We want to thank Dr. Stokes for his work and for coming on our show (Ep.33 & 34). We also want to thank you all for watching/listening and sharing the links to such an interesting subject. Stay tuned for more!

We look at further implications of nihilism. If all life is pain, why not just end it now? What is an atheist to do with living nihilisticly? And of course, we cover the Christian theist response and the better explanation to the concept of moral truth.

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We look at the consistent outcome of naturalism when it comes to morality - that of nihilism. Because definitions are important, we cover the definition of nihilism as there seems to be some misunderstanding of what it is and what it isn't. We then look at why nihilism should result from belief in naturalism and the implications nihilism brings forth.

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In this second part of the interview, Dr. Murphy talks about where economic truth derives from.  If the Fall never occurred would economic principles still stand? Then we talk about some of the weird stances people can have when applying economic principles to other parts of their lives.

Dr. Murphy and Patrick have a discussion on the similarities Austrian Economics has with Presuppositional Apologetics.  Dr. Murphy gives some advice to Christians from an economic standpoint & encourages other Christians to learn economics as part of God's ordered universe.

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We look at Dr. Stokes' take on the divine command theory to ground morality in an objective state and answer the objections to the infamous Euthyphro dilemma. The biggest argument is that the commands God gives appear to be arbitrary. In some ways that appear to be the case, however, God being God and not man requires us to look at the issue more closely.

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We look at Dr. Stokes' take on the divine command theory to ground morality in an objective state. This, of course, brings up the infamous Euthyphro dilemma. The argument is one that many bring up when objecting to the claim that God can coherently be the source of morality. In this episode, we cover the introduction to the dilemma and next episode we'll cover the refutations of the objections.

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We talk about our salvation story, how we met, what our show is about, and how we picked the name "Cave To The Cross Apologetics".  We also cover topics like why Christians should be readers, Christians need to learn from their history, Christian living, and what books we recommend and don't.  We also engage in some tomfoolery that is completely to blame on Lauren & Becca. 

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We finish up this chapter with the discussion of Dr. Stokes' critique of values when it comes to morality. If naturalism is true, there seems to be a lot of issues that result in understanding what values are and therefore what moral imperatives are. This is a lead up to his main argument of why the Christian God offers a better alternative to naturalism in making sense of moral reality.

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We once again slow down to cover an important part of Dr. Mitch Stokes' argument.  We want to be clear in our presentation of his arguments. While a non-careful reader could see Stokes going down the route of making a post-modernist argument this chapter and the next really set up his entire point of the need to ground morality in God and not in the case of naturalism.

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In Chapter 15 we go over Dr. Stoke's critique of Sam Harris' well-being theory for objective morality.  It does appear that what Harris claims is objective is just another subjective standard.

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In this second part of chapter 14, we continue to look at Sam Harris' attempt to use well-being as an objective grounds for morality.  We look at well-being from a standpoint of whether it's a moral good or more of a prudential good (a good thing to do rather than being good in and of itself).

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We take this chapter a little slower since there are some big concepts to understand.  We look at Sam Harris' attempt to define morality as being concerned with a creature's well-being.  This measurable value gives morality a scientific component and allows it to be measured and objective.

Has Harris done what David Hume failed to do and given atheists a very big weapon in combating the claims of Christians?  That's what we cover in this and the next two episodes.

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Ethics is the principles by which people act morally. If the world is guided by evolution, where does morality come from? How do we make sense of what seems to be a strong desire to understand right and wrong? Does science hold the key to living our best atheist life now?

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In this chapter, Mitch Stokes wants to clear up some misconceptions that both sides of moral realism seem to perpetuate.

Atheists need to provide a reason why anyone should be good. Some Christians insinuate that atheists should just go around being completely amoral. Both sides sometimes take part is talking past each other because morality is such an important and strongly felt topic.

We also get into what our friend, David Hume, attempted to form as his basis for a moral foundation. We then take that apart.

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We come to the 3rd and final section of our book.  We open to the concept of morality and how the atheistic worldview deals with it.  With atheism, naturalism is the concept through which one looks at the world and all facts with.  Naturalism says nature is all there is - property and causes all have natural explanations.

So you can see where naturalism might have a little problem with the concept of objective moral standards.  How can one test that murder, rape, and lying are evil when those aren't physical things?  And what is the Christian explanation?  Where should we stand?

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Dr. Lisle talks about his background, his approach, and why presuppositionalism is the way to do apologetics; and the way Greg Bahnsen did it.  It was a real pleasure to talk with Dr. Lisle and we thank him for his time and his work.

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We continue with our interview with Dr. Mitch Stokes who authored the book we are currently going through on the show. This part deals with the moral objections section.  There are spoilers to what we will be covering if you care about that with a theology book.

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We are very pleased to welcome Dr. Mitch Stokes who authored the book we are currently going through to the show. The first part of the interview is getting the very interesting history of Dr. Stoke's professional journey. We then discuss the first part of the book, How To Be An Atheist. We hope you enjoy this as much as we did. Thank you, Dr. Mitch Stokes!

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We close the science section of the book with the discussion about whether or not science could even attempt to tell us whether or not God exists. But does the belief in God root itself scientifically and does it have an impact? We discuss!

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Don't worry - we start off explaining what metaphysics is and why it's important. We then go in and discuss the failure of natural physicists to try and explain metaphysics using only a physics-based approach. We get partial and also discuss in what way people do come to their belief in God. Then we cap it off by asking the question, "Why does God allow us to fail in science?".

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Is this episode we attempt to explain...string theory! We also look at the strained relationship between general relativity and quantum mechanics and the trouble both are in. Oh, and that idea that scientists have this brilliant idea of making science look smart and logical - ya, seems like the best idea they have right now to find a working theory is to look for theories with beauty and elegance to them. A sober skeptic should have a correct understanding of how scientists work and look at their so call conclusions about God with skepticism if they can't tell us what the physical universe looks like.

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We take a look at the two most current theories of science, general relativity and quantum mechanics.  Those have to be the ones that are revealing truth to us!  Those are the cutting edge of discovery to how the universe functions and what it is made up of.  And those scientists tell us there is no God and no need for God.  Well except for the pesky fact that the scientists who came up with those theories don't believe those theories are true...oh and both theories are diametrically opposed to each other. What was it they said about God again?

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Alright, look!  Science may be hard and it may not be as sterile as we think it is, but look at what science has given us!  You can't argue with success, right?  Well, sure, we have technology and answers that advance theories.  But - haven't we always had that even when the theories turned out to be wrong?  Can a theory work without actually being true?  That's the topic of the chapter we cover in this part one of two episode.

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We finish up the chapter about the difficulty of true science. We look at just how hard scientists hold onto theories and that they aren’t just isolated from background beliefs. Christians don’t have to be skeptical of science but we must realize that worldviews play an undeclared, yet important, part of science. The episode link [...]

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We continue to look at what actually doing science is and how scientists actually do science. In this episode, we see that effects beliefs of scientists have when they do science. Not only do beliefs play a factor but we see that scientists actually rely on trusting authority and are trained to be indoctrinated. Science [...]

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We start a very interesting chapter that looks at what goes into developing a conclusion using the scientific process.  Developing theory and hypothesis sounds easy but what goes into it is quite complicated.  Again, we see that real science is not a squeaky clean process but a difficult one. The episode link is www.cavetothecross.com/ep25 [...]

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Today’s episode is of Chapter 5 of  “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). This chapter is kind of two parts. The first part is about the logical positivists coming in the early 20th century and using Hume to try and dismantle philosophy and theology. We look at their work [...]

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Today’s episode is of Chapter 4 of  “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). We look at the road Hume took with his skepticism as it applies to science. Hume end shows that there is no non-circular argument for the reliability of science and fails to answer the question of [...]

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Today's episode is of Chapter 3 of  "How To Be An Atheist" by Mitch Stokes. Dr. Stokes looks at two prominent scientists that have attempted to create theories that try to explain away both God and philosophy.  Stokes looks at Stephen Hawkings and Laurence Krauss' theories of the universe. 

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We continue with Chapter 2 of “How To Be An Atheist” by Mitch Stokes (Amazon Link – https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6). Dr. Stokes, invoking David Hume, calls atheists to be better skeptics of what is presented as known truths of the world. Hume is the philosopher that many atheists/new atheists trace back to questioning the existence of God. [...]

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Dr. Stokes sets the stage for how to be a good skeptical atheist by invoking David Hume. Hume is the philosopher that many atheists/new atheists trace back to questioning the existence of God.

However, Hume doesn't appear to take his skepticism far enough and atheists of today don't see the implications of what Hume has taken on.

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In this book Dr. Stokes challenges everyone to be a sober skeptic.  He points out the views that atheists claim to hold are either inconsistent or don't go far enough.  He challenges atheists to think more about what they are claiming and if they want to be skeptical - keep going.

It is not only a book for atheists but a book for Christians as they look at the other side's worldview and see where the inconsistencies lie - especially when it's wrapped up in the shield of "SCIENCE" and "REASON".  We are challenged to be sober skeptics as well and to think through what it really means to hold the claims we do.

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Today we announce what our second book is. To get a copy and help support the show check out the link here - https://amzn.to/2DVJmw6

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The conclusion covers a brief overview of the superiority of the Christian worldview over the naturalistic one. The Christian worldview is the only consistent one that allows for the justification of science, logic, and morality. Even the unbeliever must assume the Christian worldview too.

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We are excited to welcome author and pastor Scott Christensen to the show as our first interview.

Scott has written a great book on the subject of human free will called "What About Free Will? Reconciling Our Choices With God's Sovereignty"

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Has there ever been a just person; Has anyone been justified; Has there ever been a righteous person? (Q366 & Q367 & Q387)

Is it okay to take oaths? (Q377)

Should Christians pray in public? (Q382)

Do Christians sin? (Q399)

Is there an unforgivable sin? (Q382)

This chapter deals with supposed opposite yes or no answers The Bible presents. However, we will see that contradictions do not abound.

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Is God the creator of evil? (Q329)

Did Moses see God face to face? (Q331)

Is it possible to fall from grace? (Q332)

Did Moses fear the king? (Q334)

Are we punished for the sins of others? (Q355)

Did Jesus know everything? (Q362)

To judge or not to judge? (Q364)

Patrick and Tony cover the third part Chapter 7 of Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason (Amazon Link - https://amzn.to/2UqI16I).

This chapter deals with supposed opposite yes or no answers The Bible presents. However, we will see that contradictions do not abound.

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Can God do anything? (Q305)

Is God the author of confusion? (Q308)

How did David kill Goliath? (Q309)

Did Adam die on the day he ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil? (Q312)

Does God desire animal sacrifices? (Q316)

Patrick and Tony cover the second part Chapter 7 of Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason (Amazon Link - https://amzn.to/2UqI16I).

This chapter deals with supposed opposite yes or no answers The Bible presents. However, we will see that contradictions do not abound.

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For this episode, Patrick and Tony go over just one question as it's a practical way of doing apologetics as a whole.

Many people have not heard of presuppositional apologetics when it comes to defending or presenting the Christian faith. However, it is quickly becoming a more popular and helpful approach as we present the world with the truth of the Gospel.

We feel like it was important to take the time to go into more detail to this approach and why we find it so compelling.

This episode is the first part of Chapter 7 of Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason (Amazon Link - https://amzn.to/2UqI16I).

This chapter deals with supposed opposite yes or no answers The Bible presents. However, we will see that contradictions do not abound.

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How did Judas die? (Q228)

Is God merciful? (Q239)

How much power did Jesus have? (Q258)

Can God be found through reason alone? (Q261)

What is the Earth set upon? (Q271)

What did the sign of Jesus' head say? (Q273)

Patrick and Tony cover the second part Chapter 6 of Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason (Amazon Link - https://amzn.to/2UqI16I).

This chapter deals with supposed differences in the text of the Bible. Here's where we should see a majority of mistakes/differences/etc if they exist. But do they?

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Did David sin (clean and righteous)? (Q193)

How Should We Treat Our Enemies? (Q204)

Has Anyone Ever Ascended Into Heaven? (Q205)

Were the men with Paul knocked to the ground; Did Paul see Jesus on the road to Damascus; Did the men with Paul hear the voice? (Q206 & Q251 & Q287)

This chapter deals with supposed differences in the text of the Bible. Here's where we should see a majority of mistakes/differences/etc if they exist. But do they?

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Did the city of Ai exit after Joshua destroyed it? (Q157)

Does God want some to go to hell? (Q158)

Who was to blame for original sin? (Q170)

Who appeared to Moses in the burning bush? (Q175)

Did God kill all the Egyptian cattle in the sixth plague? (Q179)

Did Jesus ask God to save Him from crucifixion? (Q189)

Who carried Jesus Cross? (Q192)

Patrick and Tony cover Chapter 6 of Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason (Amazon Link - https://amzn.to/2UqI16I).

This chapter deals with supposed differences in the text of the Bible. Here's where we should see a majority of mistakes/differences/etc if they exist. But do they?

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the things that come first that supposedly lead to an end result.

Was Abraham justified by faith or by works (Q139)

Who sent the Holy Ghost (Q146)

Who brought evil on Job (Q147)

Who raised Jesus from the dead (Q151)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the timing of certain events in the Bible.

At what time of day of Jesus crucified (Q122)

What came first - the calling of Peter and Andrew or the imprisonment of John the Baptist (Q124)

Was Jesus crucified the day before or the day after the Passover meal (Q133)

When did Satan enter Judas (Q135)

When did Jesus temple tantrum occur (Q138)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the timing of certain events in the Bible.

When did the Temple curtain rip (Q114)

When did the women (or woman) arrive at the sepulcher (Q115)

When did the curse fig tree die & When did Jesus curse the fig tree (Q118 & Q119)

When was the Holy Ghost given (Q120)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the different names of people, supposed differences in places, and relations of people in the Bible.

From which of David's sons was Jesus descended (Q73)

Where did Aaron die? (Q79)

Where did John baptize? (Q88)

Who was Moses' father-in-law? (Q95)

Where did Moses receive the Ten Commandments? (Q100)

Where did Moses get water from a rock? (Q104)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the different names of people, supposed difference in places, and relations of people in the Bible.

Among the questions are:

Was Abiathar the father or son of Ahimelech? (Q55)

Who was Achan's father? (Q58)

What were the names of the Apostles? (Q63)

Who named Beersheba? (Q65)

Where did Joseph and Mary live before the birth of Jesus? (Q66)

Where did Jesus cure the blind man? (Q70)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the number of things (objects, people, horses, etc.).

Among the questions are:

How many were in Jacob's family when they came into Egypt? (Q28)

What is the human life span? (Q32)

How old was Abraham when he left Haran? (Q36)

Was Jesus a ransom for many or for all? (Q42)

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This chapter deals with supposed differences in the number of things (objects, people, horses, etc.).

Among the questions are:

How Did Jesus say before the cock crows or before the cock crows twice? (Q16)

How many years of famine were there? (Q20)

How long was the Ark afloat? (Q21)

How many God/gods are there? (Q24)

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Patrick & Tony continue to cover the Introduction to Dr. Jason Lisle's book, Keeping Faith in the Age of Reason

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Dr. Lisle's book covers 420 different alleged Bible contradictions in a nice referenced guide book. The series will go over the way Dr. Lisle approaches different types of objections and expand upon certain ones throughout the book.

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Two Christians who enjoy reading and discussing philosophy do the heavy lifting. Each episode is a discussion on a book or article on philosophy, theology, or similar subject. They discuss and break down the subject material and present it in each episode. You may have wanted to read or had some interest but were intimated by the material. Join Patrick and Tony in their book discussion breaking it down sometimes chapter by chapter.

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