Emily Birnbaum comes on the show to talk about President Biden’s early nominees and appointees, and what they might mean for the tech industry. Then, Joe Williams comes on to talk about SAP, its new(ish) CEO Christian Klein, and what it takes to turn around a tech giant.

For more on the topics in this episode:

• Emily and Issie on the new names of the Biden administration
• Issie’s interview with Becca Slaughter
• Emily’s interview with Jessica Rosenworcel
• Issie’s profile of Vanita Gupta
• Joe’s profile of Christian Klein

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