After touching on what life is like in Knoxville right now and what their Christmas plans are, Rick begins today's conversation by sharing a quote by Dietrich Bonhoeffer in his book 'God Is In The Manger.'

Rick talks about being available and vulnerable in and to the world, just like Jesus. Lauren mentions talking to her kids after buying a nativity set about some of the circumstances surrounding Jesus' birth.

Rick reminds listeners that God values our hearts, not the things that are impressive by the world's standards.

Rick voices that Jesus called us to love our enemies instead of focusing on winning all the time, or adding to evil.

The two close by expressing that we need to focus on Jesus in the manger this holiday season.

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