Can survivors be therapists – and even be better at it? Jacks McNamara – poet, trauma healing coach, and co-founder of The Icarus Project – joins Will Hall - advocate, counselor and founder of Madness Radio - to discuss the calling to become a therapist/counselor/coach inspired by their own struggles and survivor mutual aid. Topics discussed include -What makes a “good therapist”?

-Is mutual aid and friendship enough or do we need professional healers?

-How does sharing your trauma and oppression with clients affect working as a therapist?

-What about licensing and credentials – can they get in the way of truly helping people?

-And is a therapist at heart a wounded healer?

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