She's not a key note speaker, she didn't lead a break out session but she told me she wanted to shout this from the stage. She's tired. Do you have six minutes to listen to her?

The interview took place at the Scottish Assembly for Tackling Poverty #povertyassembly

Interview and audio produced by social reporter Emily Dodd. Read about this interview here: http://auntyemily.wordpress.com/2012/03/17/the-truth-at-the-poverty-assembly/