Eric and Brandon are joined by author and developer, Thomas Vitale. We discuss his new book, Cloud Native Spring in Action and talk about the future of Spring in a cloud native world. Destination Linux Network (https://destinationlinux.network) Sudo Show Website (https://sudo.show) Sponsor: Digital Ocean (https://do.co/dln) Sponsor: Bitwarden (https://bitwarden.com/dln) Sudo Show Swag (https://sudo.show/swag) UPDATED! Contact Us: DLN Discourse (https://sudo.show/discuss) Email Us! (mailto:contact@sudo.show) Matrix: +sudoshow:matrix.org Thomas Vitale: Thomas' Website (https://www.thomasvitale.com/) Thomas' Twitter (https://twitter.com/vitalethomas) Spring Framework: Spring Homepage (https://spring.io/projects/spring-framework) Ralph's Open Source Blog - Spring Boot or Jakarta EE? (https://ralph.blog.imixs.com/2020/08/01/spring-boot-or-jakarta-ee-whats-better/) Quarkus (https://quarkus.io/) Cloud Native: Paul Fremantle's Blog: Cloud Native (http://pzf.fremantle.org/2010/05/cloud-native.html?m=1) Cloud Native Spring in Action: Buy the Book! (https://www.manning.com/books/cloud-native-spring-in-action) Manning MEAP Program (https://www.manning.com/meap-program) Special Guest: Thomas Vitale.