Jp and Ryan talk with the director of the new documentary SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN, along with two of its featured guests, Tonya Wilson and Kimonti Carter. We discuss how initiatives among Washington State's prison population, such as the Black Prisoner's Caucus, are helping bring new direction and hope to inmates. We also talk about director Gilda Shepherd's inspiration and other films that explore criminal justice. SINCE I'VE BEEN DOWN is the opening night film of the 2020 Tacoma Film Festival.