At the end of the interview, Sam Jactel, GI patient turned CEO talks about Thomas Nagel the philosopher. In a paper from 1974, Nagel famously asked us to contemplate “What is it like to be a bat?” He suggested that you may be able to study the behavior of a bat but you can never really know what it’s like to be one.Sam takes that analogy to his own GI condition. He was tired of looking for answers within the industry. He was tired of not being seen or heard. And he ended up figuring out a solution that worked for him. Then he thought why not help other patients like him. That prompted him to go from being the CEO of his own condition to becoming the founder and CEO of Ayble Health. This digital GI startup has raised $4.6 million from investors.Watch this incredible interview. It’s a sign of the times. Expect more patients to become digital healthcare providers because the industry isn’t stepping up enough.