Rabbi Gabriel Cousens, MD has a wonderful new book, "Into the Nothing, A Spiritual Autobiography" that has enriched teachings about following a spiritual path. He's had an amazing life and is a wonderful role model to find the optimal conditions for spiritual liberation. In this interview, we'll talk about his history of being a mystical explorer and how we can follow that path too. We'll also talk about what "nothing" means. This will be quite a profound interview.