Welcome to The Fourth U Dimension, the official podcast of The Fourth Universalist Society in the City of New York. This podcast is managed by the Religious Education team, and exists to help dive deeper into the important questions of our moment.

Today's podcast features Devon Bowers. This podcast is a little different than a normal, in that it is a dual channel podcast featuring Devon’s work with “A Different Lens” Podcast. Sit down and listen as we take turns interviewing one another.

Devon Bowers is a 29 year old independent researcher and writer. He is the Politics/Government Department Chair of the Hampton Institute and runs the Institute's Podcast "A Different Lens." Learn more here: https://www.hamptonthink.org/

Ember Kelley is the Director of Religious Education at Fourth Universalist Society. Learn more about Fourth Universalist at 4thu.org