Gina & Barnaby are joined by Kathleen Ogilvie, who shares her journey of empowerment through self-acceptance and self-construction.

You can find a transcript of this episode in our shared Vagi-drive, click here!

The Vagitators Podcast is written, recorded and produced by Gina May Walter & Barnaby Alive. Music & sound by Nina Guo: https://www.facesound.org/   Episode cover art: curtesy of Kathleen Ogilvie -- Curious about our process? Here's a video to show you how we do it: https://www.instagram.com/tv/CO0dl8kKs4I/