Gina & Barnaby relocate from the kitchen to the couch to tackle the chunky, chunky topic of motherhood as a form of absolute female power.

They are joined by Jennifer Allen, a Berlin-based art critic, publisher and trauma expert, a friend of the Vagitators, and a brilliant woman.

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If you want to know more about Jenny, here's a really cool article she wrote about what it's like to be named Jennifer Allen: https://www.frieze.com/article/being-jennifer-allen

--  The Vagitators Podcast is written, recorded and produced by Gina May Walter & Barnaby Alive. Music & sound by Nina Guo: https://www.facesound.org/   Episode cover art: Barnaby Alive for The Vagitators