Originally published in June 2025, this interview with one of the UK's most influential voices on nature - Tony Juniper - is well worth a revisit.

In this episode, host Niki and Tony discuss:

• How there can be a "both and" approach to nature and economy, not an "either or".

• The scale of the challenge facing the planet, and what can be done.

• The vital roles of media, and culture, in enabling people and politics to make the changes necessary.

• How environmental challenges and inequality are linked, (and how addressing one helps the other).

• Where there is hope, and what people listening can do (plus how they can influence people in power to do more).

(The original episode has been abridged with some time-specific references removed).

Credits

Presented & Produced by Niki Roach

Executive Producer Andy Taylor - Bwlb Limited

With thanks to Alastair Chisholm

Honorary Executive Producer Jane Boland