This weeks episode features Paolo Ciarocca from Kin. He was on the very first cohort of Creative Bridge, and sits firmly in the tech camp of the creative industries. He’s been an invaluable mentor for non technical folks interested in scoping out building software, and mentored many Creative Bridge alumni. He has also retrained as a counsellor, and in this episode Oli and Paolo talk a lot about the impact of tech on mental health - how we can build better products that put the human first, and don’t create stress or anxiety for the user.