The Gab with Grattan is a podcast series where professorial fellow of the University of Canberra and Chief Political Correspondent of the Conversation, Michelle Grattan sits down with experts from the University of Canberra to discuss current events from a policy and academic perspective.

In this episode, Michelle sits down with Professor of Urban and Regional Planning, Dr Barbara Norman to chat all things COP26 - the 26th United Nations Climate Change conference which has just wrapped up in Glasgow.

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