This week's podcast comes ten years after Siamsa Tire was invited to perform at WERK, hosted by Thisispopbaby, the company which is co-directed by today's guest Phillip McMahon. Both companies appear to inhabit very different theatrical worlds which is why Joanne wanted to chat with Phillip, a Dublin-based director and playwright who holds a strong belief in active citizenship and taking responsibility as an artist to create places that people want to be in – be that in a theatrical setting or in the everyday. Enjoy!