154 - I've spoken with a lot of great women on First Time Mum's who help families with their sleep but what's different about Kim Hawley who I'm chatting with today, is that her focus isn't just on helping your little one.

She helps entire families, which is so important because we all need our sleep right!

During our chat you'll hear Kim talk about how her holistic sleep support helps entire families optimise their daily routine, daily rhythms and environment to help improve sleep for all members of your household.

Visit me here at https://www.mybabymassage.net/podcast.

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