Legendary columnist for the Wisconsin State Journal Tom Oates joins Homer & Tony to discuss the Packers loss to the Titans, where does this Packers team rank in the echelon of bad Green Bay teams, is Aaron Rodgers injured thumb to blame for his poor play, why did Rodgers play so well in the Cowboys game, but not against the Titans, is a couple weeks of rest needed for Rodgers to get over the thumb injury, has Rodgers hit the wall, on the historic performance of Christian Watson and does he think the Packers season is finished.