In this episode of The BOT, some light housekeeping and then a trip down the rabbit hole...educational consultants, the public/private divide, and more tap-dancing dogs.

The Bitchy Old Teachers is an ongoing collection of conversations that Jenefer and Jason have been having for 10 years. Now there’s a microphone in front of them! If you’re a teacher, a parent or just have an interest in the education system (which we all should!) then The B.O.T podcast is for you!

Jen and Jason are veteran educators who have devoted their lives to nothing less than building the future. Together, they have 30+ years of experience as educators; Jen in the K-12 system and Jason in higher ed.

They love students!! Students are everything! But things that are NOT the students? Well…it’s complicated.

The views and opinions expressed in this podcast and each of its episodes (individually and collectively) are the views and opinions of Jenefer and Jason and are not associated or connected with any organization, school, college, or institution.

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