In this episode Dawn Walton and Jess Probst are out to lunch, so not in the usual Starbucks! A fire alarm goes off in the middle of the podcast and disrupts it, and Jess thinks that I need the microphone closer so now I'm too loud!
Anyway we talk about the challenges of being self employed, being in a caring profession and the emotional toll it takes.
We discuss the psychology of people around their dogs and explore strategies for how we can be better at helping
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