The potential for process or materials-based artworks to create new worlds, interrogate history, and redefine structures of value and power is explored in episode three of the Make/Shift: It Wasn’t Supposed To Be Like This podcast.

Hosted by Vox member Imani Roach and featuring exhibition co-jurors Brittany Webb and James Claiborne, stick around to the very end to hear a possible alien abduction 👽.