You're smart, you're capable, and you're ambitious. But how do you level up and grow your game and add some rocket boost to your career?

Start by checking out this podcast.

We ask two top women in tech how they did it: where they started, how they climbed the career ladder, what strategies and tactics they used, and how they enlisted support from their managers and mentors. Chatting with co-hosts Peggy Anne Salz and John Koetsier are:

• Jade Worobec, Head of Performance Marketing at the Meet Group

• Katie Gill, Head of Marketing at DREST

We chat travel, mobile consolidation, and tell a few jokes, but spend most of our time discussing

In this episode:

0:00 Fluent acronym?

1:19 Everyone is buying everyone

3:32 Why plants hate math

4:52 Who are these guests anyways?

8:44 First job

11:31 Be a boss

12:34 Set a gooooaaaaaallllllll

13:47 Say yes

15:31 True in every vertical

16:58 Chaos and careers

19:58 Go back in time

21:10 Game time: eternal rookie

24:52 Breaking out of a niche

27:37 Moving to management

29:49 Women in leadership

32:03 Patience: yes or no?

34:17 How mobile marketing is changing

37:36 Resume no-no's

39:18 Top tips for career growth in marketing

41:10 Mobile heroes in the news