hello? Hello everybody. This is Caroline Schafer, your host. And today I am so happy and pleased to welcome Josh Dech, Josh Dech, is with Josh Dech Fitness Incorporated. In his early twenties he was a paramedic. He is into weightlifting strength training. He's an athlete and a personal trainer and six years ago, he made the jump to the entrepreneurial world.

He loves functional medicine, and I can't wait for today because we're going to get into all things about gut and bacteria. Welcome Josh. Thank you for having me. That was quite the introduction you should consider radio. Thank you. That's hysterical. If you knew where my brain was at a few months ago, I will so take that.

so the more I learn about the gut, the more fascinating I find it. I think one of the most interesting facts is that we are made up of more bacteria than cells. That's so cool because I don't think many people know that. they call it the second brain now and how important that is.

So tell me a little bit about you and how you got into.

Wow. Okay. That's quite a journey. So my first career, as you said, I was a paramedic and it actually happened more by fluke how I became a personal trainer. I moved across the country and I was trying to get my paramedic's license transferred. Now it is only province to province.

Whereas doctors and nurses are more national, sometimes international, depending on designation. So my testing just wasn't going through and I wasn't able to transfer my license. It wasn't just the medical exam. So I hit a bunch of things. Picked up a job at a gym, just working as a personal trainer there.

In the meantime to pave my licensing sort of fell in love, ended up at this business conference. And, from there the rest is history. I decided that weekend it was a three-day conference. I'm quitting my job, starting a business, fell in love with it. And I've been doing this now six years. And over the course of all of this, I've made that transition.

Really fell in love with the idea of moving from reactive medicine as a paramedic to proactive medicine as a personal trainer operating in the space of functional medicine. Oh, I love that. I love that proactive. That is my kind of words. I know you're a big proponent of the book, "the Oxygen Advantage", tell me a little bit about the oxygen advantage, fantastic books written by Patrick McComb. I'm not sure his exact designation, Irish fellow work somewhere in whether it's sports therapy. I forget exactly what it is. However, the book talks about the importance of breathing.

Something as simple as chest breathing versus belly breathing. How, when you breathe through your nostrils are actually produced nitric oxide, which helps create basal dilation. It dilates the blood vessels, lowering blood pressure. It's healthier gas exchange. It actually warms the air. It's not as hard on the lungs, but it does to relax your body, actually just nasal breathing versus breathing through your mouth.

Even the little things. When you breathe through your mouth, you're prone to breathing in your chest. Which creates tightness in the muscles, in your pecs, your neck, your shoulders, your traps, which can inhibit a bunch of nerves. Create stress responses. Breathing in the belly can also help stimulate and call the Vegas nerve, which is a big one in relaxation.

It governs the heart and all your organs, the digestive system. And so the simple act of breathing through your nose. Creates this entire cascade of things in the body where we do our health has just amplified by just breathing differently. It's amazing is so amazing. And I'm so a proponent of that, and I'm going to blow everybody's mind right now.

So I do something a little bit crazy at night but it's because I've read up on all of that. It is so funny to me, how before, like your one and a half, two, you breathe correctly and nobody instructs you, but somehow we mess it up and we go from naturally breathing as an infant through our nose. Somehow we start breathing through our mouth, which is not good so I tape my mouth to sleep and it is wonderful. , I learned from Mike Mutzel, with High Intensity Health and it does crazy things, it changes jawline structure. Like you said, all the chemistry within the body, the stress, like w like a million chemical changes happen, it's mind blowing.

It's such an like autonomic thing. It just, happened. Nobody, instructs you to breathe, but we're all doing it wrong. Like, it's so crazy. Well, how can you do something wrong when you just do it intuitively it's true. I mean, they recommend that the book you tape your mouth closed when you're sleeping to force you to breathe.

Now I've dealt with a more of a histamine issue. It's like a mass cell activation issue where my body, through my gut and other issues that I've had struggled with over the years before I learned to correct. my body would produce histamines, produce mucus, all kinds of stuff. So I dealt with this chronic rhinitis where my sinuses are always plugged in.

Just even the act of forcing myself, even when it was hard. It almost made me panic a bit because I couldn't breathe. My sinus has just opened up, but I mean, I'm 29 years old my skull is not going to change an In structure, a growth, right. It's more popular and they talk about this in the book.

It's more popular in tribal countries, African countries, where there will actually force the baby to start breathing through his mouth. They will hold its lips close to force it breathe, to a sinuses over here. We call it barbaric over there. But you'll notice it's not just a genetic thing, but a lot of tribes, pygmy tribes, African tribes, some of it's a genetic lineage thing, but you'll notice a wider, nasal cavity, larger sinuses, larger air passages through the nose because they are breathing properly.

That's a human should look like, but the development of your nose, like you and I talked about this a little bit. I know you're jumping at the bit for this one. It's so funny to me that people call them third world. And yet they know how to work their body better than all of our intelligence over here.

You know what I mean? That's kind of a scary thought. It's like something as simple, something as simple as breathing. That we do every single second of our life that we can't do for more than a few seconds without, and we just mess it up. when you breathe through your mouth, your whole throat gets dry, which is not good for bacteria but when you tape your mouth shut, you can't breathe. There, it doesn't get dry. Then I don't drink water. Then I don't have to get up and use the restroom in the middle of the night. So I just get one big continuous sleep without any interruptions.

But I just think it's glorious. And when I have researched the information, there were so many benefits to it. The first time I saw it I was like, okay, that's really crazy. Crazy. Like, why bother? Just no way. It's too crazy to be true. It looks nuts. I mean, when you see somebody with their map taped, you're like, whoa, that's really strange.

Yeah. Right. It looks a little off, but if you do the science, I tell you why it's so. Amazing. And it's like, if you try it, it takes a few nights because your first you're like, what is this thing on my mouth? It helps all the asthma, sleep apnea and snoring like it is such a godsend for all of these things.

I wish people had more of the mindset of those third world countries, because it is truly amazing how many healing properties it can have. So I can't wait to get more into this and those jokes, we talk, well, first world problems, but what is the first real problem? Is it that, you know, my modem, I can't reach to my house is so big or is it that my body is so screwed up because we don't understand the basics of medicine.

Yeah. We really need to get more simplistic. We've overcomplicated everything. ? I never knew asthma is a disease of luxury, it's not in third world countries. If they don't have it, we've created our own diseases because of that clean and antiseptic we are.

And, everyone's driving me crazy with the hand sanitizer, cause that stuff is so darn toxic and most people use in Purell, which is bacterial, not viral. So it does nothing for COVID and it just makes. Crazy. I've tried to even like tell managers of stores. I'm like, this does nothing.

You're not helping anything, you know, but, uh, it's people just don't understand. But, talk to me more about gut bacteria, like DNA versus gut bacteria. Ooh, good topic. Okay. So something that I think is not so commonly known as every person in the world, no matter who you are, where you're from, we'll share an average about 99.9% of your DNA.

We've always looked at DNA as a thing that makes us it as it's who we are. It's what was passed down from generation to generation, from your parents. To me, it's how I came to be with blonde hair, blue eyes. Right. My height's all DNA based, which is true. However, DNA and genes, all there's variables between them.

What's really interesting if we shared 99.9%of our DNA, and we all look as different as we do. What's more interesting is you and I, we had these ecosystems living on our skin and inside of our gut, like billions of billions of bacteria. In fact, we have three to five pounds of bacteria living in our digestive system.

Okay. So we it's super crazy.

That's yeah, this is all full of bacteria. If it was the wrong kind of bacteria that would kill a population. So we share 99.9% of our DNA, but this entire ecosystem that lives inside of our bodies, digesting food, absorbing nutrients and vitamins, and creating vitamins for us, balancing hormones, we only share about 10% of that genetic makeup of our gut bacteria between you and yet we should have 99.9% of our DNA.

So my question is what really makes us is that our. Or is it a gut bacteria? If you have what we call dysbiosis or imbalance in gut bacteria, poor gut health, poor gut bacteria. You can have almost any medical condition under the sun. You can have diabetes, MS, autism or autism like symptoms, ADHD, anxiety, depression.

You can have all. Hashimoto's your gut and your thyroid have a direct connection. You're getting your brain a direct connection. And that brings into like leaky gut leaky brain toxins, getting into the brain causing inflammation that you just it's endless. And we'll, we'll dive. However far you want to dive today.

I know we don't want this to be a six hour lecture, but that's the gist. It's amazing. The brain, the body, the gut. It's just incredible. It really is. I heard an interesting quote the other day and they're like, no doctor, even all the doctors cumulatively. Have any clue on really the depth and an insight of all the things that go on on the human body.

It is just so impressive and amazing. Like the more we keep finding out. It's so complicated. It really is such a miracle. Like it is amazing to me as a mom that all the babies that come out. Okay. Because of, so there's such a variety of things that could go wrong, I mean, it's millions of things. It's mind blowing as many of us come out as good as we do to me. I mean, even like your gut health, as it relates to your liver and liver toxicity, Now the EWG, the Environmental Working Group has all kinds of studies. They have a list. They call the clean 15 and the dirty dozen, the dirty dozen, it's all your fruits and vegetables that have the most pesticides and additives and GMOs.

Whereas your clean 15 or your best 15 options like avocados, hardest stuff, your dirty dozen is always spinach, strawberries, other berries, soft things. Now they've also done studies followed parents and babies and all kinds of stuff. They've done these testifying chemicals and chemical additives within the body.

And they found an average it's 252 or 56 chemicals inside the umbilical quarter of an unborn fetus that makes me want to cry. It should, it's not chemicals, pesticides, herbicides, fungicides, rocket fuel petroleum products inside our body. And then in an average adult, it's over 500 and some odd chemicals.

And it's amazing that still a baby can come out. This is why I believe we had all these autism and learning disabilities and things that are getting worse and worse as we develop. But these are diseases of a developing country. And so. It's amazing that the human body could still produce a healthy, functional baby amongst these hundreds of like rocket fuel and your why it's stuff it's soil, it's everywhere. It's amazing.

A lot of people like rice and it's a staple but there's a amount of arsenic in rice and it's so crazy. Like you think rice is such a normal staple for so many people in the world, but it's like the contaminants are so high.

I personally go gluten free and the more grain-free that I am the better off I am. The only two that I seem to have no repercussions from are cassava root and coconut flour.

I've mentioned this before about the bacteria. As a mom, I've had twins and they say babies that are born vaginally, get to have that bacteria as they go through the birth canal. And it really jump-starts their whole gut health c-section void that and they never get that. And it's like stealing from them in my mind, which is really sad.

And the C-section babies usually have more asthma allergies and all those kinds of repercussions and I literally have that in my life. I have twins, the first one was born vaginally and second one was born C-section first one doesn't really have allergies. Oh, when she played softball, she looked a little frog.

Her eyes would blow up in our thing, but I'm like, I have scientific proof of that theory right in front of my eyes. It's amazing. What's really interesting. Is there are some doctors who are more on board with this stuff than others. Cause as far as a lot of them are concerned, it's pseudoscience and booty witchcraft.

Right, right. I mean, we, we can prove it. We have the studies to back us up. So what some doctors will do, thankfully, is if you are born, C-section, we'll actually take to a vaginal swab and wipe it inside the cheek of the baby, which will actually start to culture and produce that gut bacteria. So get that biome, but one of the issues, I mean, this is how sensitive the gut is.

This is why not only because babies don't have teeth, you should be feeding them solid through and say six months, eight months where there's, they start to be able to digest it. But it's not just. Because their gut bacteria is still developing. Their immune systems are still developing. What happens. You can actually create leaky gut in an infant, creating food sensitivities and allergies and battle the digestive issues in it as an infant before that, even an adult.

And so they're already predisposed to asthma allergies, histamine issues, gut health issues, because you've fed them solid food too early. Like it's just such a delicate process. That's so funny that you say that because my daughter is about to have a baby and I did not know about that swab. And I literally just wrote that down. So many doctors are so jumpy about doing that darn C-section and I hate it because it is so important to go through that. God knew what he was doing when he made this whole process, you know? And it's so vital to them for the rest of their life. I will still be passing that information along. Thank you for that.

You talked about the dirty dozen, you talked about the clean 15, so you had to pick two foods, let's just say for like gut health, what would you pick? Wow, that's a crap question,

but gut health. Yeah. What would you pick for a food or two as a generic? 'cause a lot of people, we look at probiotics and prebiotics, right? For, for the listeners who don't know the difference, a probiotic is things that are your bacterial cultures, things like, you know, kefir or yogurt, or it was when I was thinking I was like cabbage juice, sauerkraut so those are your probiotics.

Prebiotics are starches and things fibers, non solubles that will actually feed them. They can feed the bacteria . So not everybody can have dairy. So I'm a big fan, big fan of like cabbage, for example, fantastic. For the gut. It's really great fiber. Fiber, it goes so far beyond anything else.

Let's say that for gut health would be dietary, not supplemented, but dietary fiber binds on to toxins and binds onto extra hormones and pulls water into the colon. Eases the pressure, the stress on the digestive system, decreasing inflammation prevents helps ease blood sugar into the body as well.

So don't get these peaks and valleys of prevents diabetes, dietary fiber from fruit and vegetable sources would be the number one thing I would use for gut health. Um, so one of the things that I try to do from my gut house does I'm convinced that Hashimoto's thyroiditis is all gut related.

I try to do one fork full of sauerkraut every day. They say that that's all you need is one forklift. I also heard that olives were really good. They are. Okay, good.

For the importance of gut health, as the second brain, what can you share with that?

Oxford, have you repeat the question in a sec? Because my ADHD brain is you're actually talking about the importance of gut health and thyroid, and is very much directly connected and important point to note is, are you familiar with what's called goitrogenic foods? Yes. Okay, perfect. So anybody with a thyroid condition, low thyroid or hypo thyroid Hashimoto needs to avoid those goitrogenic foods cabbages and broccolis things like that because it actually binds to the iodine molecules in that we call your T3 hormones.

They don't want to change that. So that's where we get this, what we call T3, reverse T3 iodine, molecule shifts a little bit, and it actually changes the active. T3 hormone. That's your, your reverse T3 is an inactive version, right? I mean, 97% of your thyroid is T4. It's inactive. 7% is active T3. And if you have low thyroid, you getting high conversion to this inactive form called reverse T3.

You're eating high, like iodine binding foods, these goitrogenic foods, it's going to increase your thyroid hormone issues. So something to watch out for people with thyroid conditions and got. So one of the things that I've heard and I try not to eat a lot of the broccoli, the cabbage or the cauliflower kale, brussel sprouts are in there. I have heard that if you cook them, it is better. So that, that is an aid cause unfortunately with broccoli is so good for you. It happens to be one of my favorite, but I don't need it very much. But do eat the one fork full of cabbage, but I do know about that and it is interesting.

And I do also know about the gluten-free is very important. I think gluten-free most people should just do that because it's just such a, like gluten you're on them, for sure. Like gluten unequivocally across the board creates leaky gut for everyone. Right like celiacs, but for sure, yes. Well, it, I find it interesting.

I don't think people understand. I've been out to a meal people and they make faces when I'm trying to question people about what's in the food, but I don't think they understand the ramifications, like one bite of anything with gluten and it makes my own thyroid attack itself for like months on end, which is pretty crazy.

If you start thinking about your body attacking itself for six months, cause you had a morsel of something and to me, it's just not worth it. I don't, I'm a hundred percent gluten-free I don't vary it. what is interesting is the amount of gluten that we intake today. It is nothing like our grandparents.

I forget the percentage, but it's a mere fraction because it's in everything. They will think, oh, bread, no, it's in your toothpaste. It's in pretty much anything. That's in a bottle that as some kind of coagulation, the salad dressing dressings, the barbecue sauce, all condiments and that kind of thing.

I used to do corporate events and I used to be in charge of dietary issues. I think it was gluten that you could find them they're like 23 names. So it's really hard on labels to decipher all this, which makes going out to eat very problematic.

So many things relate to it, I know we had mentioned Parkinson's, I mean, 85% of what we call your neuro-transmitters are made in your gut.

And so neurotransmitters, they're the things that allow nerves to communicate. It's not all one big band, right? I mean, there's these heads at the end of the nerves and they need to send these chemical messengers across, but the other nerve to pick that up in a drag it across the signal to carry it down the body to wherever it's going, but we have 85% of your neuro-transmitters, those communicators are made inside of your. And if you have a dysbiosis or gut health issues, inflammation, bloat, whatever it is, you're lacking those neuro-transmitters. And so to an extreme degree, it can create things like MS, parkinson's other stuff. I mean, you look at your dopamine, serotonin dopamine, or lack of dopamine causes Parkinson's and that's made mostly in your gut.

Wow. I did not know that. That is really scary.

I know you're a personal trainer. Tell me about a success story. One of my favorites and, all of my current clients might get sick of me talking about it, but it's the greatest success we had because their starting point of dramatic.

So I work with Lynn and Lynn was a client of mine. She came in to see me when she was 57 years old. And so she had just had a gastric sleeve done. They took up 76% of her stomach and she had this black hole. Yeah. And so it was, it was that the bariatric surgery, right. To wait. And I am entirely every sense against weight loss surgery every way. There's no justification for medically, scientifically speaking for it to be a thing ever, ever. I agree with you, people just take out everything today and I don't believe people know what they're doing when they do that. No, they really don't. And without going too much a rappel isn't the top of her gallbladder.

So anyway, so she had her, her stomach part, part of it removed. And so this created a bunch of issues for her. Of course she couldn't eat. She was having gut health issues, whatever. Once you started with me at age 57, she was on 17 pills and a shot of insulin for breakfast. She was on nine more pills and insulin before bed.

She had a C-PAP machine, high blood pressure, borderline cardiac. Uh, we call CHF congestive heart failure. She was on the disability list at work, but they had a fire drill and she's up on the 30 whatever floor. And she had to stand there and wait for the fire department to come and get her because she couldn't get down the stairs.

Oh my God. I was aged 57. We started working together. Uh, this was actually early in my career by age 59, she was doing phenomenally. She was almost off all of her medications except for one, because of her surgery, no C-PAP or nothing and she was getting into weightlifting after the first, you know, eight months to a year now.

So weightlifting is just, it's a fountain of youth. Lynn. I said you're 59. I said, you liked this weight lifting thing. I really like it like her dead lift was coming up this little lady at five foot, nothing 59 years old. And she was dead with, higher and higher weights, which we'll get to in a sec, I said, Hey, what do you, what do you feel about like entering your first power lifting competition?

Right. And there's just, it's just squat bench and your deadlift, that's your powerlifting right. And she says, well, I don't know. I said it doesn't matter. It's a sign here. Perfect. So we signed on, but three months later, four months later, we drove up to Madison Hat's at three hours out of Calgary here.

And so we got her up there and she did her first powerlifting competition. And she actually at age 59 broke her first ever world record. As a weightlifter and her division, she dead lifted at our all time peak. She ended up breaking like six world records, this woman who was on pills and insulin. And C-PAP the works after two years.

And this is just the power of the body to heal itself. We treat it properly. She broke as a total, her career between 59 to 62 years old, she broke six world records. She holds something like seven nationals and two provincial records for her weight and age division in the raw powerlifting category, which is amazing... amazing. That is wicked cool. Oh my gosh. What a story? Holy cow. That is tremendous. Well that legacy got passed pass, like her kids, like her, her daughter got into weightlifting. Who's getting who then started adjusting her food who gave that to her daughter. So now her grandchildren are eating better and performing better because grandma's started something amazing.

It didn't go well, I'm old, it's too late. She went, I need this. My body will still heal itself. I can recover. I can do it. And we got her on these programs and got her moving. And we'll shit before. Yeah, she's off all of her medications. She's breaking world records as a strength athlete in her late fifties.

So it's never too late to change people. People always use the excuse. I'm like, no, no, no. You just gave me chills because so many people do the opposite. They impart bad habits into their children and their grandchildren, you know, the sugar and the snacks and the eating all day long and going to sleep with iPads and all that nonsense.

And this woman. Put the bull by the horns in her late fifties, totally changed things up that often her medication cured herself with your help of all of these ailments that she had and, and then breaks world records. That is freaking awesome. When you talk about habits, right. And how we pass these onto our children and our grandchildren, there's an old story.

It's my favorite story. And a girl goes to her mom's house. Why don't we cut the ends off the ham. So she says, I dunno, your, your grandma did it. So she goes to her grandma she's she's asked her mum. She says, why do you cut out the ham? She goes i don't know, my grandma did it. Well, her great grandmother was still alive.

She went to her and said, great grandma, why do you cut the ends out the hand? She goes, well, you know, back when I started in my early twenties, we didn't have a pan big enough. So we had to cut the ends off to fit. So we're doing all these things where we're moving, we're doing you're changing, making change in their lives and habits structures, just because somebody else did it.

We don't ask why we're not the power of why. Why do we think we are, especially with the craziness that's going on in the world, we don't stop to ask why we're all a bunch of puppets. And we just do what we're told, ask why use your God-given brain and use some common sense and figure these things out. The people who are dictating this stuff are getting paid.

They're getting paid. It's the food and drug administration, it's the big pharma. And it's like, they're the ones who are making all this information available. To make us believe things. And their pockets that are getting lined. So is this exactly factual?

And if you dig deep enough, it's not, we won't be too much of the rattle Hawks, you know, where we're kind of on gut health today, but there, there is a theory it's more spoken about in the conspiratorial atmosphere, but it's called the medical industrial complex. And so if we actually look at medicine as an industry, sick people are revenue.

War is profit, everything's profit. So if you actually trace back, when you can verify all these, you want to go and do your own digging critical thinking goes here. This is where it gets really interesting. Your food, Kellogg's all your branded stuff, your packaged stuff, Ramen, all, whatever you're eating, doesn't matter, it's all owned by the same couple of corporations, Pepsi, Coke. It's all owned by the same people. Apple or Microsoft or all the shareholders of these overarching companies are owned by the same people. It used to be a lot of it was Berkshire Hathaway, but now if you look at the top two for everything, it's Vanguard and it's BlackRock, the two companies who own basically the planet, they own your food, they own the new.

They own the medicine medical school is paid for by pharmacy. 20% of it, 25, 20 6% is paid for by pharmaceutical companies who tell them what to learn, what studies they do, what medications treat, what in those. Who make the money. They produce the things that make you sick. They put the chemicals in your food.

They sell you the medications. They sell you the hospitals. I take your tax dollars. I take everything. You can verify all this BlackRock and Vanguard are the two companies that own everything and this monopoly that makes you sick and keeps you here, that's the medical industrial complex.

We are viewed as revenue, but a patient cure is it client loss to customer loss? Yep, absolutely. Absolutely. That's so that makes such sense. Love the way you sum that up.

It all comes down to dollars and cents. That's it we're we're profit. We're cash cows. I mean, they it's so sad. It is. It is literally heart-wrenching to me to think that we've come to this kind of a place, but, but he's really fed GMO foods to rats and they'd grow tumors the size of their entire body, where it's just GMO based.

We know GMO's are bad for us. They said, well, no, no, it's fine. It's fine. But we have the data. We have this, we have government studies and go to NCIB you can go wherever you want and you'll find information on it, but we're told something different. So it's so crazy. And it just, it really, it upsets me and it upsets me for like younger kids to who are never going to experience the freedoms that, that we did once growing up and be able to do things, but okay.

Since we're in a heavy mode here, I'm going to ask my heavy question, so if you could eliminate one thing in this world, Josh, what would it be and why? One thing now on a food basis being of gut health, I would remove aspartame hands down unequivocally.

I love that answer. Um, and it's known to be a neurotoxin. There've been reports coming out of the states, people who drink four liters of diet Coke a day presenting with MS where they just literally lose feeling in their hands and legs. And they come off a bit. Aspartame is poison and they come off as aspartame and they get back.

That's my food answer. My other answer would be human greed, but it's, it's part of human nature. It's our sin nature. It's whatever you want to call it. But. A hundred percent. That's what we'll segue to is everything that we do if it's not for personal gain, right. The whole world collapses in on itself because of people chasing power and personal gain.

And if we just did something we're generous, we just gave, we just worked with somebody else, did something for someone just out of the kindness of our hearts, everything. I mean, everything will be better. They've done studies just to show you what. They gave, different amounts of money to someone said, buy something for yourself with $5 up to a thousand dollars and buy something for yourself or $5 or for someone else, or $5 up to a thousand dollars.

They hand this money, have them do these things. Now the self-reporting system, when they thought back about that deed or what they did or what they bought people who bought a $5 coffee for someone are happier than somebody who bought a thousand dollar item for themselves. Yep. Power of giving those far beyond just the little things it's chemical, it's hormonal, it's in our nature.

We're made for that. Don't give themselves the chance to experience that because by far when you do and you get hooked on that, like a drug of choice because that high of giving and feeling good about yourself is priceless. It really is. It's amazing. Tell everybody where they can get ahold of you and JoshDech Fitness.

Well, if people want to get ahold of me, you can definitely get ahold of me on my website. That's Joshdech.com, DECH. And we also started a Facebook group a couple of weeks ago, which is of course entirely free, always will be. And the entire idea behind this Facebook group is to create a space where people come in and learn.

I've been part of these keto groups and weight loss groups where people just. It's unfortunate because if you don't know an answer, you ask a question you get made fun of for it. And we're absolutely not this is a space where the group members are here to teach. They're here to learn. And the group it's actually quite a long name..

But you can look up Restoring Strength and Vitality for Men and Women, age 30 to 60 is health and fitness, restoring strength and vitality for men and women. And what we're doing is we're educating, we're doing lives every Friday. We're taking questions from our group members. We don't just create content because I think you should learn this.

We see what's going on. We talk to you. We ask questions, we take polls and pick a topic and we teach because I want people to get out of this medical industrial complex, into a space they can learn and understand and critically think for themselves, heal their bodies from within and do what they need to do to get better because medicine is way too complicated.

Now we have all these issues. We were playing catch up all the time. We're creating problems. And then creating medications to band-aid these problems will not the medication caused problems. So he's another medication for the problem caused by a medication it's crazy. And we just, we want to help. We want to spread the message we want to help people think critically and holistic and functional spaces and heal their bodies.

So if you can find me @joshdech.com, where you can get to that health and fitness, restoring strength and vitality for men and women, age 30 to 60, I know it's a, quite a mouthful. It's all for SEO purposes. I know. I come to, and it's much easier to name a child than it is to find a website name.

I will link that, that name in the notes. So hopefully people, if they would, you know, access that they can find it easy. And, I love you have the word vitality in there. That's so awesome. I thank you so much. I'm so big into gut health, and I think it vitally important out there and the breathing and all the things we talk about. They're overlooked in general, people know about, fried foods and things like that but I think people are really missing that link between breath and gut health.

So thank you for sharing your wisdom today and your story. We greatly appreciate that. And then especially about your client. No wonder you do bragging rights on her. I mean, that is just phenomenally cool. But yeah, we, we appreciate you being here today and I want all of our listeners to remember life has no remote, get up and change it yourself.

It's been a pleasure, Caroline. Thank you.