Host Jennifer Zyman is joined by James Beard nominated chef Cleophus Hethington of Ębí Chop Bar. They discuss Hethington's path to being a chef, his thoughts on the industry and mental health, what the industry is like for black chefs from his perspective, his new business www.ttspices.com, and what is next for him as he moves back to Atlanta.

This is the last episode of Season 2. Thank you for listening! We will be back later in the year or early 2023. Please don't forget to rate and review the podcast wherever you listen so others can find it. More of Jennifer's work at www.jenniferzyman.com.