We have two of the most watchable players in the business on the BT Sport AFL podcast this week.

First up, Josh Gabelich speaks to Melbourne star Steven May about his journey from the Northern Territory to Melbourne Grammar, the ups and downs of his eight years at the Gold Coast Suns and how he rebounded after a nightmare first season at the Demons.

Then we preview the AFLW Grand Final between Adelaide and Brisbane with Collingwood young gun Chloe Molloy.

All that and much more on episode four.