The FBI’s explanations for its Jan. 6 failures don't add up, reporter Jason Paladino tells Jeff Stein. And Jeanne Meserve dives deep into the creepy Metaverse with terrorism researchers at the National Counterterrorism Innovation, Technology, and Education Center.

Our guests:

Jason Paladino https://twitter.com/jason_paladino https://twitter.com/gridnews

The National Counterterrorism, Innovation, Technology, and Education Center @NCITE_COE

Austin C. Doctor https://twitter.com/austincdoctor @UNOmaha

Sam Hunter https://twitter.com/dr_samhunter

Joel Elson

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