Two winners of the Iron GM competition at Gencon, Jill and Alan, come on the show to talk about new player friendly games, advocating for yourself, running a fun game, and lightsabers! You can find more of Alan at https://sabermartialarts.life and Jill can be found at https://tokotna.com and https://www.deviantart.com/tokotas where they play an RPG through art, which is super rad!

Thanks, Andre, for introducing us!