Kirsty and Naomi talk about the beauty of being late to popular culture followed by a discussion on the non-fiction texts / memoirs On Immunity by Eula Biss and The Collected Schizophrenias by Esmé Weijun Wang.

Other books mentioned:

No One Is Talking About This by Patricia Lockwood

All the Young Men by Ruth Coker-Burks

a recipe for sorcery by vanessa kisuule

Klara and the Sun by Kazuo Ishiguro