In this episode, Hà Trang brings in Farid Hamka, founder of @jakartabookhive in Jakarta, Indonesia to talk about his recent obsession with trees. Through a reading of Richard Powers' The Overstory and Catherine Pierce's poem "High Dangerous," the two explore how humans and flora interact and co-exist. 

A crucial question comes up during the chat: in order to raise public awareness of the importance of trees and promote a non-human-centric viewpoint, should we describe beings as they are or should be personify them to highlight their close connection with us humans?