It's not just because Richie Hawley is a great clarinettist and has some fascinating ideas and techniques for bringing music to our ears, but this was a great conversation for the latest  episode of Harmonious World.

Richie's latest album is with pianist Conor Hanick. A Gentle Notion includes the clarinet sonatas of Aaron Copland, Jennifer Higdon and Pierre Jalbert, together with Joan Tower's stunning Wings. 

Thanks to Richie for allowing me to play extracts from both Wings and A Gentle Notion alongside our conversation.

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