Emma and Ben are back and excited to have their first proper conversation since the Easter holidays. Discussed in this episode: - Climbing up Snowdon - Free movement play and building physical agility - Utopia and dystopia - how to parent in an uncertain world and future - The Witch Trials of JK Rowling podcast - Rewriting the curriculum for the current world and why is everyone so obsessed with maths? - Deep rest and privacy as a mental health need Follow Emma @playful_den Follow Ben @benflyingretro