Greetings listeners...

Due to personal reasons, we have been unable to record Episode 5 of the podcast.

However, the good news is we recorded an interview feature for the episode with Junaid Hussain which we've decided to publish as a mini-episode.

We hope you enjoy listening to the insightful thoughts of Junaid as much as we did.

We'll be back with episode 5 in due course. Until then, thanks for listening.